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Old 06-01-2006, 08:51 PM   #1
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6 world powers agree on Iran incentives

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6 world powers agree on Iran incentives By ANNE GEARAN and GEORGE JAHN, Associated Press Writers
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VIENNA, Austria - Six world powers agreed Thursday to offer Iran a new choice of rewards if it gives up suspect nuclear activities or punishment if it refuses, a gambit that could either defuse a global confrontation with the Islamic regime or hasten one.

"There are two paths ahead," British Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett said in announcing agreement among the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Russia and China on a package deal for Iran that carries the threat of United Nations sanctions.

The package would be on the table for a proposed new round of bargaining with Tehran over what the West calls a rogue nuclear program that could produce a bomb. The U.S., in a major policy shift, agreed this week to join those talks under certain conditions. It would be the first major public negotiations between the adversaries in more than a quarter century.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice met with the foreign ministers from the European nations that led talks with Iran that stalled last year. Also present were representatives of Russia and China, which have been Tehran's trading partners and might join in any future talks with Iran.

Since Russia and China hold vetoes in the U.N. Security Council, the U.S. needs their cooperation to seek sanctions or other harsh measures by that body.

"We are very satisfied by the results of today's meetings here in Vienna," U.S. Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns told reporters. "We consider them a step forward in our quest to deny Iran nuclear weapons capability."

A short statement issued by foreign ministers from the six powers and the European Union did not mention economic sanctions — the punishment or deterrent favored by the United States and that Iran has tried hard to avoid.

The powers agreed privately, however, that Iran could face tough U.N. Security Council sanctions if it fails to give up the enrichment of uranium and other disputed nuclear activities, U.S. officials said.

Diplomats feared Iran would immediately reject any invitation to bargain if the threat of sanctions was explicit, officials involved in the discussions said on condition of anonymity because the seven-party negotiations were private.

The foreign ministers' statement threatens unspecified "further steps" in the Security Council.

The group's statement also contained no details of the incentives to be offered to Iran in the coming days. Diplomats previously have said the package includes help developing legitimate nuclear power plants and various economic benefits.

"We are prepared to resume negotiations should Iran resume suspension of all enrichment-related and reprocessing activities," as previously required by the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency, Beckett said.

If Iran returned to the talks stalled since last year, "we would also suspend action in the Security Council," Beckett said.

The Security Council, which can levy mandatory global sanctions and back its mandates with military force, has been reviewing Iran's case for two months. Its permanent, veto-holding members have been at odds over the possibility of sanctions, with Russia and China opposed.

"At this crucial stage, it is very important that none of the sides involved in the situation makes any sharp movements that would create a threat to the real prospect of using the chance to reach agreement," ITAR-Tass quoted Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov as saying before talks began in Vienna.

Iran insists its nuclear work is peaceful and aimed at developing a new energy source.

Iran's foreign minister welcomed the idea of direct talks, but rebuffed the U.S. condition that Tehran must put uranium enrichment on hold before talks can begin.

"Iran welcomes dialogue under just conditions but won't give up our rights," the state-run Iranian television quoted Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki as saying Thursday.

At the White House, President Bush warned that the confrontation would end up at the U.N. Security Council if Iran continues to enrich uranium.

"If they continue their obstinance, if they continue to say to the world, `We really don't care what your opinion is,' then the world is going to act in concert," Bush said.

Bush said he got a "positive response" in a telephone conversation Tuesday with Russian President Vladimir Putin, adding, "We expect Russia to participate in the United Nations Security Council. We'll see whether or not they agree to do that."

Bush also spoke about Iran on Thursday with Chinese President Hu Jintao. He revealed little about that conversation, saying, "They understood our strategy."

The shift in U.S. tactics was meant to offer the Iranians a last chance to avoid punishing sanctions, and to let the United States assert that it was willing to exhaust every opportunity to resolve the Iranian impasse without force.

Previous talks among Iran, Britain, France and Germany foundered last year. European diplomats and others said the United States was partly at fault, arguing that it alone carries the global weight to force Iran to bargain in good faith and to make any agreement stick.

The U.S. offer for talks is conditioned on Iran suspending its enrichment of uranium and related activities and allowing inspections to prove it. Uranium enrichment can make fuel for nuclear power reactors or the fissile core of warheads.

European nations and the Security Council have demanded the same thing, but Iran has refused to comply.

Iran needs to be turned into a parking lot.
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so will this turn out great for the world or FUBAR? my guess is FUBAR but I'm holding out hope.
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Re: 6 world powers agree on Iran incentives

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Iran needs to be turned into a parking lot.

Just like Iraq....might mess up an oil well...

Wasn't this a world class flip flop on Bush's part. Didn't he say we would never negotiate with terrorist nations?

Had Kerry or Clinton ever reversed policy like this it would have been headlines on FOX for weeks.....

Good luck with this is all I can say. Iran is much more of a threat to the United States than Iraq ever was.

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And guess who GW is going to get to put up all the money for the nuke factory? The good ol American taxpayer? Stay tuned.
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what nuke factory?
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This is an interesting way of looking at the problem of Iran I think.

What US allies or currently US occupied contries border Iran? Go look it up.

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This is an interesting way of looking at the problem of Iran I think.

What US allies or currently US occupied contries border Iran? Go look it up.

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None, were trapped in a couple, but we aren't occupying any country.......
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what nuke factory?
The one Halliburton is going to build with U.S. taxpayer dollars. Geez don't you know any of GW's secret plans? I heard it from a little bird that knows GW personally.
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This is an interesting way of looking at the problem of Iran I think.

What US allies or currently US occupied countries border Iran? Go look it up.

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None, were trapped in a couple, but we aren't occupying any country.......
I disagree.. we have troops in Iraq.. Turkey is an allie (sp).. so is Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. The United Arab Emirates, and Oman all will give us their allegiance. That gives the entire Persian Gulf my friends.. wars are always won by sea...

To the east is Aphganistan... where we have American troops. Pakistan to the South.. and Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan to the north.. all allies (sp)...

Seems to me that Iran is protesting, because they were the target all along.. chess.. it's a patient game.. too bad the latest generation of X-Box junkies have no patience..

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I disagree.. we have troops in Iraq.. Turkey is an allie (sp)
Can't fly combat missions on islamic countries from there, only stage troops ..
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.. so is Saudi Arabia
crooked country that sponsors both terrorist and anti-terrorist actions.....

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and Pakistan.
Until it strains our relations with India, or India and Pakistan finally go full bore into war rather that just skirmish...

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The United Arab Emirates, and Oman all will give us their allegiance.
until some one gives them more money or offers more territory to them to not be as nice to us as tehy could be.....

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That gives the entire Persian Gulf my friends.. wars are always won by sea...
Until the exocette(sp) and silkworms start comming in, they refuse to supply other countries with crude and the 'powder keg' goes off...

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To the east is Aphganistan... where we have American troops. Pakistan to the South.. and Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan to the north.. all allies (sp)...
Then China goes south to protect thier 'intrests', just like we do.....N. Korea pushes across the 38th, Iran invades the boarders of Iraq. France surrenders, Tony Blair stays in power and D. Fox is elected president of the US and they find Jimmy Hoffas body in XDFunny's basement.

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Seems to me that Iran is protesting, because they were the target all along.. chess.. it's a patient game.. too bad the latest generation of X-Box junkies have no patience..

Raymond
Yea, like i'm gonna trust a man that almost died from choking on snack food.........too bad the selfish baby boomer generation that had everything handed to them -bunch a hippie doper maggots- screwed it all up and have brought thier 'he who has the most toys wins' attitude into politics and foreign policy that has this country bleeding to death........

Wars are always won by the sea huh?? Looks like you turn a conflict into a geurilla(sp) type war, it pretty much stops the US in its tracks.....we've faced that twice already and we lost the first one- second one is still going on with no end in the forseeible future.......
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