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Old 06-02-2006, 07:26 PM   #11
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And i bet if any of these folks in washington tried to walk and chew bubble gum - They'd either choke or trip......Its not chess, it's hurried reactions to proposed future actions from a holier than thou wanna be dick-'tater.....

"DICK cheney, COLIN powell- lead by BUSH......America has been cornholed by a pussy......." courtesy of good ole George Carlin...
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Old 06-02-2006, 07:43 PM   #12
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George Carlin and E 13 know their stuff. Ray get off your dead ass and learn the truth instead of making stupid excuses for the dimwitted politicians in DC..
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Old 06-02-2006, 07:51 PM   #13
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You are just being negative!!! LOL

Patriot missile batteries.. Destroyers and Cruisers placed in the Persian Gulf.. Aircraft carriers in the IO, a fortified airbase in Iraq.. land based gunfire at the mouth of the Persian Gulf in the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Oman... Friendlies in Turkey.. American bases established in Aphganistan, Turkmenistan an ally (sp) Backup friendlies in Uzbekistan..

Don't worry about India.. they will be with us. They have a billion people who are not against us to nearly the degree that the average American leftist is..

I think we have a winning scenario here... if it must be war.. and it may very well be.. we are in a very good position.

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Old 06-02-2006, 08:16 PM   #14
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Wars are always won by the sea huh?? Looks like you turn a conflict into a geurilla(sp) type war, it pretty much stops the US in its tracks.....
Wars are always won by sea. Battles can be won on the ground... war is a different objective.

Without getting into the details of Vietnam and Korea.. both conflicts which we won by the way.. save for the leftists who forced us out and did not allow us right wing war mongers to enforce the treaty which we made them sign and caused the millions of lives to be lost by the communists....... I digress...

Iran has no way to supply itself.. save for the Persian Gulf, and Russia. Russia would pretty much have to supply them through Azerbaijan.. and that probably aint gonna' happen. We could starve them out in a matter of months.

They may have a lot of oil.. but they don't have a lot of access to supplies. That is why they are such a poor backward nation with a lot of money.

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You are just being negative!!! LOL

Patriot missile batteries.. Destroyers and Cruisers placed in the Persian Gulf.. Aircraft carriers in the IO, a fortified airbase in Iraq.. land based gunfire at the mouth of the Persian Gulf in the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Oman... Friendlies in Turkey.. Backup friendlies in Uzbekistan..

Don't worry about India.. they will be with us. They have a billion people who are not against us to nearly the degree that the average American leftist is..

I think we have a winning scenario here... if it must be war.. and it may very well be.. we are in a very good position.

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Sounds like the the battle plan for for every other war we've been into since WW2.......and whats our score?? Iran isn't going to crumble like Iraq and the 'stan did.......a war with Iran makes me think of how Ho Chi Mihn liked to fight.....you also seem to forget about the population here and how it wouldn't be a walk in the park.......'shock and awe' ain't gonna do it. Ever seen a fox chase a rabbit into its burrow...theres a reason why it doesn't.

On another note, we're gonna save the world from the evils that lurk in every corner......but whose gonna save us from ourselves??
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They may have a lot of oil.. but they don't have a lot of access to supplies.
I bet that would change very quickly. And if a war with Iran came, it would on a multinational level and spread like wildfire. I believe Europe would be at war within a matter of months. The 'old soviet republics' would be split on loyalty to either "east or west". I wonder if a move on Israel would happen also....I know they couldn't stay 'neutral' for thier own self preservation. Besides, the persian gulf is easy to blockade, but as Murphy's law comes into play then.....hard to get in, harder to get out.
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So what we are talking about here is a WWIII that we will likely lose because our politicians want to base it on "How much money we can put in our pockets" mentality they now have.
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So what we are talking about here is a WWIII that we will likely lose because our politicians want to base it on "How much money we can put in our pockets" mentality they now have.

You think it to make the world a safer place??
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They may have a lot of oil.. but they don't have a lot of access to supplies.
I bet that would change very quickly. And if a war with Iran came, it would on a multinational level and spread like wildfire. I believe Europe would be at war within a matter of months. The 'old soviet republics' would be split on loyalty to either "east or west". I wonder if a move on Israel would happen also....I know they couldn't stay 'neutral' for their own self preservation. Besides, the Persian gulf is easy to blockade, but as Murphy's law comes into play then.....hard to get in, harder to get out.
Nope.. I think you are wrong. Old Europe has had enough.. their economies are so shot that they can't wield any kind of war anymore.. France can't provide jobs for their socialist young metro-sexual.. Italy is almost ready to abolish the "siesta", Germany only has their hatred for Jews and the production of virtually nothing left.. Britain is our friend thanks to Tony Blair..

New Europe is with us. They have finally broke free of the Eastern bloc and want desperately to drive 1957 Chevy's and listen to rock-n-roll.. Now is the time to take the middle east. We have friends there... they are nation states and we must treat them as such.. but don't think for a second that they don't want to ally (Sp) themselves with the United States.

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"old europe" is gone.........but the fuse has been lit and the count down has begun......Blair is a has been and will not return, why do you think he needs so much security........Germany has yet to awake-the jew isn't its enemy this time.......
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