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Old 05-31-2006, 10:12 PM   #1
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William Jefferson.. the poor cotton picker..

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Tuesday, May 30, 2006

The House's Trust in Jefferson [Andy McCarthy]

The only way the House could rationally assert that it is in possession of all the documents responsive to the subpoenas would be if the House itself, aware of what was in the subpoena, had conducted a thorough search of Jefferson’s office. Undoubtedly, that never happened. Short of such a search, any assertion by the House that it has all the documents has to depend on Jefferson himself: i.e., Jefferson says he has given the House all the appropriate documents and the House has decided to take Jefferson’s word for it.

There are reasons beyond just the obvious one Kate mentions (about the 90K in marked bills) to doubt Jefferson on that score. The Justice Department today filed a memorandum of law in opposing Jefferson’s demand that the property seized from his office be returned to him. Included with the memo was an affidavit from an FBI agent who was present in Jefferson’s home when it was searched on August 3, 2005 (i.e., the search in which the 90K was recovered). The agent explains that, even while the search was being conducted, Jefferson tried to conceal documents from the FBI.

Specifically, at the start of the search, Jefferson was seated at a table in the kitchen. The agent saw him looking at several pieces of paper laid on the table. Jefferson then asked the agents if he could take a look at a 19-page subpoena that had been served on him earlier in the day. The FBI agreed and brought him a copy of the subpoena. According to the agent, Jefferson (when he obviously thought no one was looking), put the subpoena on top of some of the documents he had been looking at earlier, and then placed the whole stack under his elbow.

Subsequently, once Jefferson saw that the agents were finished searching the living room area, including a blue bag that was in the living room, Jefferson asked if he could move to the living room from the kitchen. When the FBI said OK, Jefferson proceeded to take the stack with him and stash it in the blue bag.

The agent who was observing all this then confronted him. According to the agent, Jefferson insisted that the only thing he had placed in the bag was the subpoena. The agent then demanded that the bag be emptied. Jefferson finally complied, careful to place the subpoena on top. But sure enough, under the subpoena, the agent found the documents Jefferson had been looking at while he was sitting at the kitchen table. They had been fax’d to Jefferson that very day by a man named B.K. Son. The agent pointed out to Jefferson (as if he needed reminding!) that the search warrant being executed specifically called for all communications between Jefferson and Mr. B. K. Son. The fax’d documents were thus seized from Jefferson and preserved as evidence.

Given that Jefferson evidently tried to hide documents from the FBI right under the FBI’s nose even as the FBI was in the process of executing a search warrant that demanded those very documents, it’s hard to understand why the House or anyone else would take comfort in any representation from him that all documents responsive to subpoenas have been accounted for and produced.

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Now.. I am sure that liberals.. and left wing cynics like OEF will dismiss this report as more right wing culture of corruption nonsense..

In the case of liberals they will just say that this cotton picking black man who was given the silver spoon gratis of the American Taxpayer was only taking advantage of the white male dominated, unfair, and frankly war loving evil that is all that America really is.. And he was only taking his "props" because America is a racist nation..

In the case of OEF he will most likely tell us that they all do it.. and it's not bad when it's a Democrat, because Democrats hate George Bush just like he does.. so that makes it OK.

Interesting way that these things turn out isn't it? Bill Clinton can kill Randy Weavers wife and son because he had a shotgun that was 1/4" too short.. The women and children of the Branch Dravidian's can be burned alive because they owed some back taxes... the Clinton administration is absolved by these liberals and cynics..

Yet this man (William Jefferson) who was given so much by the American taxpayer (A free Ivy League education, and a seat in the U.S. House) can be caught on video tape taking huge bribes.. even hiding evidence under subpoena.. and nary a word from the cynics and liberals...

I guess it just doesn't fit the mold to be anything but a Bush hater these days.. interesting times...

Thank goodness Tom Delay, or Scooter Libby hadn't been caught doing anything that was actually illegal.. the cynics and the liberals would have a field day with that!! They get all these miles of "I Hate America" bull**** on mere innuendo.. I wonder what the world would be like if Liberals faced even a smidgen of this kind of scrutiny..

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Old 06-01-2006, 05:30 AM   #2
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You're exactly right.



If a Republican ends up charging Jefferson with ethics violations the Bush-haters will object...just like they objected when Congresswomen Democrat Cynthia McKinney was almost charged with ethics transgressions for striking a police officer and breaking the law.

Too bad McKinney did not strike and officer in California:

1989: Zsa Zsa Gabor, the actress, gets pulled over for a traffic violation. She gets out of the car and slaps the Beverly Hills police officer. A jury convicts her of assault, and a judge sentences her to three days in jail and fines her $13,000.


Soon William Jefferson Clinton...oooops, strike that, Congressman William Jefferson will be portrayed as the victim.





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You're exactly right.
Gee, the lapdog agrees with his master. What shock!

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CONSERVATIVE - any questions?
Yes, but they never get answered so why invite them?
We know you can't even tell us what a "conservative" or a "liberal" are, but still you love the sound of the words so you just use them with no meaning and no context. Time to refresh your signature...or answer the questions you seem to be begging to be asked? (Which we all know can never happen).

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You're exactly right.
Gee, the lapdog agrees with his master. What shock!

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CONSERVATIVE - any questions?
Yes, but they never get answered so why invite them?
We know you can't even tell us what a "conservative" or a "liberal" are, but still you love the sound of the words so you just use them with no meaning and no context. Time to refresh your signature...or answer the questions you seem to be begging to be asked? (Which we all know can never happen).

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Let me relieve you of you're confusion towards my signature line before you mischaracterize my intentions further. I'm sure 99% of XDForum members reading it are not confused.

It's a RHETORICAL question.

A big advantage of your continually claiming to be open-minded is you get to claim that all things are very complicated and filled with nuance and mystery. You get to question every statement from others, even to the point of questioning the definitions of complicated words like: love, hate, patriotism, conservatism, etc.

I am not confused, I know what I stand for and that is why I will continue to ignore your hateful personal attacks. If others on this forum believe the lies you have told about me then so be it; this is too much fun to abandon because of your cowardly hate speech.



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Doesn't everyone have 90 grand in their freezer?

Anyone noticed how the press is giving this guy a pass or at least downplaying this story? If this had been Rep. John Culberson or Ron Paul, they'd be all over every Sunday news program and Time Magazine, Newsweek, NY Times cover stories and so on. Ranting and raving about a culture of corruption would be heard by Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and the usual suspects. You know the drill. Sitting across from Stephanopolous, acting all "outraged" at the action, like they know of nobody else that has done so.

The man is getting a pass of sorts. Wanna know why?

Its two fold.

First he has a "D" after his name. That immediately puts a person on the same side of the ideaology scale as most of the press, therefore, they will donwplay or gloss over the story, no matter how horrible or corrupt it might be. Evidence means nothing...tape, video, DNA...forget it...does not matter.

Second....can you guess it? I'll help you out. The mayor of DC was also caught on film years ago (smoking crack and playing with hookers) and was pretty much let go for the same reason. OJ Simpson was also acquitted for this reason as were three hooligans that were filmed beating a truck driver in the LA riots after the Rodney King verdict. The reason is one in which the left often says should not matter, but by their actions over and over again, it most surely does. Yes...thats it...you got it! The color of his skin. You can hear it now..."they're only picking on him because he's black" can't you? Its a classic part of the apologist's playbook.

Awful...but very true.

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I wouldn't worry about that too much.

I think the best the the GOP has going for it is the Democrats. What a mess they're making of a golden opportunity to step up and take control. Hooray for us.

That means we can still salvage this mess by replacing faux-Republicans with real ones.
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Its two fold.

First he has a "D" after his name.


Second....The color of his skin.

(what is it with people named William Jefferson?)
Wow..
Just WOW!

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Old 06-01-2006, 11:36 AM   #8
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Its two fold.

First he has a "D" after his name.


Second....The color of his skin.

(what is it with people named William Jefferson?)
Wow..
Just WOW!

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I think I'd rather be called a "class warrior" than a racist.

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It's a RHETORICAL question.
Believe me, anything I ask you is a rhetorical question since I KNOW I'll never get an answer.

Saying I lie does not make it so. Give an example. I know you can't.

Saying I say hateful things is a joke coming from you. I have NEVER said I hate anyone or anything. You, on the other hand, have told us the hundreds (thousands?) of things you "hate" about how America works.

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"I think that we want to make sure that when the next Congressman is investigated for illegal activity that the procedure done by the Justice Department is right..." J.Sensenbrenner (R) Chmn. Judiciary Cmte.

You know there's a lot of Republican anuses puckered up in fear if they are taking up for a "poor old black cottonpicker......."

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