Al Gore's Carbon Footprint - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

mgeoffriau · 05-25-2006, 08:42 AM

I found it interesting:

http://interface.audiovideoweb.com/l...h.wmv/play.asx

Mark S. · 05-25-2006, 04:00 PM

Like it or not, Gore is right on the climate issue.

Bush's response to the question about whether he would see Gore's film admitted as much. He didn't say Gore was wrong, just said we would have to use "technology" to solve the problem (at least he now admits that there is a problem).

NewXD40fun · 05-25-2006, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark S.

Like it or not, Gore is right on the climate issue.

Bush's response to the question about whether he would see Gore's film admitted as much. He didn't say Gore was wrong, just said we would have to use "technology" to solve the problem (at least he now admits that there is a problem).

I must have missed the link to this gem of information about the President Mark(sist)S.

Please post your reference.

Tom

NewXD40fun · 05-26-2006, 03:54 AM

That's what I thought.

Tom

manic mechanic · 05-26-2006, 07:45 AM

Not exact, but it'll do.

Do you need a link to Google too

The White House said Bush already has acknowledged the impact of human behavior on global warming.

“The president noted in 2001 the increase in temperatures over the past 100 years and that the increase in greenhouse gases was due to certain extent to human activity,” said White House deputy press secretary Dana Perino.

“Since then he has committed tens of billions of dollars to the science and technology programs that he initiated and we are well on our way to meeting the president’s goal of reducing greenhouse intensity by 18 percent by 2012,” she said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12930351/from/RSS/

Here ya go

http://www.google.com/

Mark S. · 05-26-2006, 07:50 AM

It looks like "manic" has already answered funnygun's question.

manic mechanic · 05-26-2006, 07:57 AM

Bush doesn't even like to here the info from his own people. Maybe if HALLABUDDIES had done a $150,000,000,000.00 study he'd really like it.

Bush Environmental Adviser: Gore’s Film Gives The ‘Same Advice I’ve Been Giving For Years’

When asked on Monday whether he would watch Al Gore’s new movie on global warming, An Inconvenient Truth, President Bush said, “Doubt it.”

At a speech at the American Enterprise Institute on Monday, the White House Council on Environmental Quality Chairman Jim Connaughton distanced himself from his boss and advised the audience to go watch Gore’s film. According to E&E News (sub. req’d):

Connaughton also surprised some by praising Gore’s new film, “An Inconvenient Truth,” as well as the recent Advertising Council campaign sponsored by Environmental Defense and the Robertson Foundation. In both cases, Connaughton said the messages presented on both campaigns’ Web sites mirror the Bush administration’s themes of better consumer practices and development of new technologies.

“I encourage you to go to them,” Connaughton said. “They’re giving the same advice I’ve been giving for years.”

Gore’s advice in the film, which opens today in NYC and LA, is simple: “that the world is facing catastrophic climate change because of the negligence of mankind.” Politicians – including Bush – have failed to acknowledge the “inconvenient truth” that human activity is contributing to global warming.

If this is the “same advice” that the President is receiving from his senior environmental adviser, then why is Bush now arguing that we should “set aside” the scientific evidence?

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/24/...viser-on-gore/

I'm sure W loves this guy now

Brickboy240 · 05-26-2006, 08:04 AM

The problem with this issue is that the voices for or against the theory have a political axe to grind. The Junkscience.com website has links to being funded by Exxon and Gore has certainly had credibility issues and definately has an axe to grind.

A fair and unbiased study on global warming would be great, but its nowhere to be found, is it?

I guess there are alot of people here that do not remember the book that came out in the early 70s called "The Population Bomb." This book used "scientific data" and all sorts of "educated guesses" and predictions about our population, food supply and the environment. Almost all of these predictions and theories (which were touted as the gospel truth and hypeed over then as the global warming theory is today) was proven dead wrong. Look it up and read the damn book, if you think I am making it up...I am not. That book was the "Earth in the Balance" of the 1970s.

(come on now...you over-40s help me out on this one...remember this book and the fear it stirred up?...and how wrong it all turned out to be?)

This is why many of us, especially those of us over 35, that were not spoonfed all sorts of gloom and doom about global warming in school by a very left leaning faculty, are viewing the global warming fearmongers with a little skepticism. We have seen similar "evidence" before and it was almost 100% wrong in 25-30 years time.

I am not going to debate whether global warming is true or not or if man has any control over it or if getting rid of every SUV and everyone riding bicycles would cure it. The theory may be true, but it may be a huge pile of BS, too - if history repeats itself.

Translation: you're going to need more unbiased proof, less hype and studies done by those without an axe to grind or political motivation. You're going to have to do better than a movie by Al Gore...ok?

- Brickboy240

Captain Ray · 05-26-2006, 08:41 AM

Jeez!! Global Warming is a myth.

It is a conglomeration of a bunch of theory's that are all bundled up into one concept that is purely political. Global Warming is a concept that has only a political meaning, and no root in science whatsoever.

Liberals don't want the planet to heal.. they want to elect communists.. that is all that Global Warming is about.

Raymond

bd1 · 05-26-2006, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Ray

Jeez!! Global Warming is a myth.

It is a conglomeration of a bunch of theory's that are all bundled up into one concept that is purely political. Global Warming is a concept that has only a political meaning, and no root in science whatsoever.

Liberals don't want the planet to heal.. they want to elect communists.. that is all that Global Warming is about.

Raymond

Science is tough for people who are dumb, but it's real hard for people who are dumb and don't want to learn anything either.

bd

05-25-2006, 08:42 AM	#1
mgeoffriau XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jackson, MS Posts: 1,038	Al Gore's Carbon Footprint I found it interesting: http://interface.audiovideoweb.com/l...h.wmv/play.asx __________________ I felt early on I wasn't going to be a respectable citizen. -- Cormac McCarthy We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed.

05-26-2006, 03:54 AM	#4
NewXD40fun XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Olmsted, Ohio Posts: 2,729	That's what I thought. Tom __________________ Springfield XD-40 Service w/DGR kit, EFK 9mm Taurus PT-140 Mill Pro _ Specialized Roubaix Expert "YOU'VE GOT TO STAND FOR SOMETHING OR YOU'LL FALL FOR ANYTHING" ---Aaron Tippin

05-26-2006, 07:45 AM	#5
manic mechanic XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: michigan, down the river Posts: 1,128	Not exact, but it'll do. Do you need a link to Google too The White House said Bush already has acknowledged the impact of human behavior on global warming. “The president noted in 2001 the increase in temperatures over the past 100 years and that the increase in greenhouse gases was due to certain extent to human activity,” said White House deputy press secretary Dana Perino. “Since then he has committed tens of billions of dollars to the science and technology programs that he initiated and we are well on our way to meeting the president’s goal of reducing greenhouse intensity by 18 percent by 2012,” she said. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12930351/from/RSS/ Here ya go http://www.google.com/ __________________ The 2nd amendment makes all the others possible. If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under." Ronald Reagan

05-26-2006, 07:57 AM	#7
manic mechanic XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: michigan, down the river Posts: 1,128	Bush doesn't even like to here the info from his own people. Maybe if HALLABUDDIES had done a $150,000,000,000.00 study he'd really like it. Bush Environmental Adviser: Gore’s Film Gives The ‘Same Advice I’ve Been Giving For Years’ When asked on Monday whether he would watch Al Gore’s new movie on global warming, An Inconvenient Truth, President Bush said, “Doubt it.” At a speech at the American Enterprise Institute on Monday, the White House Council on Environmental Quality Chairman Jim Connaughton distanced himself from his boss and advised the audience to go watch Gore’s film. According to E&E News (sub. req’d): Connaughton also surprised some by praising Gore’s new film, “An Inconvenient Truth,” as well as the recent Advertising Council campaign sponsored by Environmental Defense and the Robertson Foundation. In both cases, Connaughton said the messages presented on both campaigns’ Web sites mirror the Bush administration’s themes of better consumer practices and development of new technologies. “I encourage you to go to them,” Connaughton said. “They’re giving the same advice I’ve been giving for years.” Gore’s advice in the film, which opens today in NYC and LA, is simple: “that the world is facing catastrophic climate change because of the negligence of mankind.” Politicians – including Bush – have failed to acknowledge the “inconvenient truth” that human activity is contributing to global warming. If this is the “same advice” that the President is receiving from his senior environmental adviser, then why is Bush now arguing that we should “set aside” the scientific evidence? http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/24/...viser-on-gore/ I'm sure W loves this guy now __________________ The 2nd amendment makes all the others possible. If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under." Ronald Reagan

05-26-2006, 08:04 AM	#8
Brickboy240 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 8,980	The problem with this issue is that the voices for or against the theory have a political axe to grind. The Junkscience.com website has links to being funded by Exxon and Gore has certainly had credibility issues and definately has an axe to grind. A fair and unbiased study on global warming would be great, but its nowhere to be found, is it? I guess there are alot of people here that do not remember the book that came out in the early 70s called "The Population Bomb." This book used "scientific data" and all sorts of "educated guesses" and predictions about our population, food supply and the environment. Almost all of these predictions and theories (which were touted as the gospel truth and hypeed over then as the global warming theory is today) was proven dead wrong. Look it up and read the damn book, if you think I am making it up...I am not. That book was the "Earth in the Balance" of the 1970s. (come on now...you over-40s help me out on this one...remember this book and the fear it stirred up?...and how wrong it all turned out to be?) This is why many of us, especially those of us over 35, that were not spoonfed all sorts of gloom and doom about global warming in school by a very left leaning faculty, are viewing the global warming fearmongers with a little skepticism. We have seen similar "evidence" before and it was almost 100% wrong in 25-30 years time. I am not going to debate whether global warming is true or not or if man has any control over it or if getting rid of every SUV and everyone riding bicycles would cure it. The theory may be true, but it may be a huge pile of BS, too - if history repeats itself. Translation: you're going to need more unbiased proof, less hype and studies done by those without an axe to grind or political motivation. You're going to have to do better than a movie by Al Gore...ok? - Brickboy240 __________________ The top 25% of wage earners in America pay 86% of all federal income taxes collected. (according to 2007 IRS website data) Es mejor morir a pie que vivir arrodillado Volvo...the Swedish Brick!

05-25-2006, 04:00 PM	#2
Mark S. XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 733	Like it or not, Gore is right on the climate issue. Bush's response to the question about whether he would see Gore's film admitted as much. He didn't say Gore was wrong, just said we would have to use "technology" to solve the problem (at least he now admits that there is a problem).

05-26-2006, 07:50 AM	#6
Mark S. XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 733	It looks like "manic" has already answered funnygun's question.

05-26-2006, 08:41 AM	#9
Captain Ray XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,693	Jeez!! Global Warming is a myth. It is a conglomeration of a bunch of theory's that are all bundled up into one concept that is purely political. Global Warming is a concept that has only a political meaning, and no root in science whatsoever. Liberals don't want the planet to heal.. they want to elect communists.. that is all that Global Warming is about. Raymond __________________ \"I have been driven many times upon my knees by the overwhelming conviction that I had nowhere else to go. My own wisdom and that of all about me seemed insufficient for that day.\" ~Abraham Lincoln~

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode