Is Somolia next? Again?

[PackerfanXD]

From the BBC:

Has 'war on terror' reached Somalia?

Gunmen have controlled Mogadishu for 15 years
Since the 11 September attacks on the United States more than four years ago, Somalis have feared that their lawless country could become the setting for a battle between US-backed anti-terror forces and al-Qaeda sympathisers.

Now it seems as though their worst fears may be coming true.

The capital, Mogadishu, has been rocked by the worst violence in almost a decade, leaving at least 120 people dead.

Hundreds of people have fled their homes as the rival militia clashed with mortars and anti-aircraft guns.

The few private hospitals still operating are unable to cope with the deluge of people injured in the fighting.

The fighting is between the Islamic Courts' militia, which wants to set up Sharia law to end the years of anarchy, and a coalition of the warlords who have devastated the country, fighting for control in the 15 years since there was last an effective national government.

Facts and figures about life in Somalia

President Abdullahi Yusuf, who only controls a small part of the country, has said the warlords are being funded by the United States, as part of their war on terror.

Many Somalis agree with him, after the warlords, who had been rivals for many years, this year formed the Alliance for the Restoration of Peace and Counter-Terrorism.


The US has neither denied nor confirmed these reports but it says it would "work with responsible individuals... in fighting terror" and warned that it was very worried that lawless Somalia could become a safe haven for terror networks.

A US anti-terror task force is based in nearby Djibouti.

The warlords - Mohammed Deere, Mohammed Qanyare and Bashir Rageh - and their business allies control large parts of Mogadishu and crucially the airstrips around the capital.


It is always difficult to know exactly what is going on in a country with no central authority. Some analysts say the fighting may also be over business rivalries between militia leaders.

Conflict deepens

The BBC's Hassan Barise in Somalia says the latest fighting is the worst seen in Mogadishu for almost a decade - since the aftermath of the last US intervention in the country and the death of warlord Mohammed Aideed.


To make matters worse, the fighting has come at a time when there seemed finally to be some progress in Somalia's snail-like peace process.


Most people are just desperate to be able to go about their daily lives without the fear of being killed by a stray mortar



Eyewitness: 'Waiting to die'
More than a year after a new parliament and president were sworn in in neighbouring Kenya, the MPs finally started their first meeting on Somali soil in February - just a week after the fighting between the Islamic Courts and the warlords first started.


A diplomat following the Somali peace process told the BBC News website that the fighting was a "serious blow", which has overshadowed the parliamentary session in the town of Baidoa.

"Three of those involved should be in Baidoa but instead they are fighting in Mogadishu," he said.

President Yusuf has long argued that Mogadishu is too dangerous to host the government. He has set himself up in Jowhar, 90km north of the capital, to the concern of some MPs, led by Speaker of Parliament Sharif Hassan Sheikh Adan.

They say the president does not have the authority to move Somalia's capital.

This latest fighting only makes it more difficult to set up a government in Mogadishu and puts backwards the date when Somali can again be a "normal" country.

Mr Yusuf says the US funding of the warlords, who have never welcomed him, is not helpful and should instead be channelled through his fledgling government.

Arms bazaar

Some Somalis back the Islamic Courts for doing something to establish law and order in a country where the law of the gun has long held sway.

But the warlords, and others, say the Islamists are also behind a series of targeted assassinations of prominent figures, including a peace activist and senior military officials.



A US anti-terror base is as close as it could be to Somalia

Many of the Somalis killed are those who had argued in favour of a foreign peacekeeping force in Somalia - an idea strongly rejected by the Islamists.

The warlords further accuse the Islamic Courts of sheltering a Sudanese man, known as Zuweydan, wanted by the US as a terror suspect.

Western diplomats have long said that Somalia was home to training camps for Islamic radicals.

In a country without a government, a group with enough money can do just about anything it wants.

Weapons are easily available in Mogadishu's arms bazaar.

Last year the International Crisis Group, a political think-tank, reported that: "In the rubble-strewn streets of the ruined capital of this state without a government... al-Qaeda operatives, jihadi extremists, Ethiopian security services and Western-backed counter-terrorism networks are engaged in a shadowy and complex contest waged by intimidation, abduction and assassination."

Islamist sentiments

One of the key figures in the Islamic Courts, Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys, who is wanted by the US, denies the existence of training camps in Somalia.


Sheikh Aweys denies terror groups operate in Somalia

But he told the BBC News website he has sympathy for the "Muhajadeen who are fighting back" against attacks by the US and their allies around the world.

On the streets of Mogadishu, many distrust the Islamic Courts but also have little time for the warlords who have ruined their country, or for the US, which they see as oppressing Muslims.

The thousands living as refugees, in tents or wooden shelters erected on waste ground or in derelict buildings, are desperate for more permanent shelter, and for schools and clinics.

Before then, however, most people are just desperate to be able to go about their daily lives without the fear of being killed by a stray mortar.

Maybe Iran isn't next on the list...

[Mark S.]

How much oil does Somalia have?

[VTJames]

Probably has some.

Definitely has Uranium.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/so.html

"uranium and largely unexploited reserves of iron ore, tin, gypsum, bauxite, copper, salt, natural gas, likely oil reserves "

Funny you should ask. :P

[one-eyed-fatman]

Originally Posted by VTJames

Probably has some.

Definitely has Uranium.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/so.html

"uranium and largely unexploited reserves of iron ore, tin, gypsum, bauxite, copper, salt, natural gas, likely oil reserves "

Funny you should ask. :P

Well hell, that's worth killing over.

[Old School]

Somalia has "Yellow Cake". You don't want the bad guys to get the yellow cake.

[Old School]

Somalia has "Yellow Cake". You don't want the bad guys to get the yellow cake.

BTW, If Iraq was over oil, that was a mistake, as we could have just attacked Mexico or Canada and got a lot more for less blood. A majority of US oil comes from Mexico and Canada, not the Middle East.

Iraq is 7th on the list.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/p...nt/import.html

OS

[PackerfanXD]

It is true that we get alot of oil from our own hemisphere, but it would have been nice to get some from Iraq for cheap. Hell, I thought we'd get free gas for a month or something after the war started.

[one-eyed-fatman]

Originally Posted by XpackerfanD

It is true that we get alot of oil from our own hemisphere, but it would have been nice to get some from Iraq for cheap. Hell, I thought we'd get free gas for a month or something after the war started.

Actually I think some of our troops did. During daddy Bush's war in Iraq some of our troops were ordered to burn things (drums of chemicals) and they stood to close when they did this.