Morris Dees, Jr. is a scumbag.......

[einheit 13]

Two miles from the border with Mexico, U.S. citizen Casey Nethercott’s dream ranch is now the property of Edwin Alfredo Mancia Gonzales and Fatima del Socorro Leiva Medina, both illegal immigrants from El Salvador.

And Nethercott didn’t sell it to them. They took it by force, after trespassing on it to sneak into the U.S. All orchestrated by Dees.

The real Morris Dees, chief of the misnamed Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), is using our courts to take American land from Americans and give it to illegal aliens.

Dees’ legal squad used American courts to put Nethercott in jail and transfer his property to the illegals he tried to keep out.

According to the New York Times, Nethercott bought the Arizona ranch, “Camp Thunderbird,” in 2003 for $120,000, his entire savings. He used the 70-acre property as headquarters for Ranch Rescue, a group like (and connected with) the Minutemen, which tries to keep our borders safe–since our government will not.

In March 2003, Nethercott and Ranch Rescue caught Mancia and Leiva sneaking into the country on a ranch near the Texas border. Even Mancia and Leiva admit that the Ranch Rescue members gave them cookies, water, and a blanket, and let them go after an hour.

But they accused Nethercott of threatening them and hitting Mr. Mancia with a pistol. Instead of trying the illegals for trespassing and kicking them out, Texas prosecutors tried and convicted Nethercott of gun possession by a felon (he previously served time in California for assault), and he is now serving five years in a Texas prison.

It gets worse.

In prison for the gun possession charge, Nethercott was unable to defend himself against a civil lawsuit filed by Dees and his gangster mob of lawyers on behalf of the illegals who claimed post-traumatic stress for their hour of cookies and water.

Dees took Nethercott’s ranch to pay the default judgment of $850,000 against Nethercott (in addition to $600,000 garnered against two other men).

Perhaps this column should really be called, “How to Get Rich Quick for Illegal Aliens.”

It gets even worse.

Dees and his SPLC also tried to get Nethercott’s $60,000 in bail money transferred to the illegal immigrants. It was money Nethercott’s poor mother obtained by mortgaging her home in order to post bail. Dees’ lawyer mob also went after Nethercott’s sister, a nursing assistant.

And you thought it couldn’t get any worse? Think again.

Without filing these charges, Mancia and Leiva, the illegal immigrants would have been deported. Instead they are living comfortably in our country and have applied for visas available to immigrants who are the victims of certain crimes and cooperate with authorities. Until then, they are here on a year-to-year basis, with the help of Dees’ lawyer thugs, and the approval of our irresponsible government

[one-eyed-fatman]

Thank you Mr. Bush. Gutless wonder that he is.

[jkswiss]

Just to play Devil's Advocate, this guy is hardly a saint. From what I know of this situation, he was accused of assaulting two illegals. This is the same guy who was accussed of threatening to kill a couple of Border Patrol Agents and the same guy that is a leader of his own little militia group who was looking to purchase two helicopters for reasons unknown. He is a CONVICTED FELON(don't downplay this)(assault i think it was) in possession of firearms. I'm not saying it was right for them to take the shirt off his back but hes hardly an angel. I guess the sore point of all this is that its an ILLEGAL that got all his stuff but who are the tool times that passed this strange provision of the law in the first place, our esteemed elected officials, thats who.

[einheit 13]

Originally Posted by jkswiss

Just to play Devil's Advocate, this guy is hardly a saint. From what I know of this situation, he was accused of assaulting two illegals. This is the same guy who was accussed of threatening to kill a couple of Border Patrol Agents and the same guy that is a leader of his own little militia group who was looking to purchase two helicopters for reasons unknown. He is a CONVICTED FELON(don't downplay this)(assault i think it was) in possession of firearms. I'm not saying it was right for them to take the shirt off his back but hes hardly an angel. I guess the sore point of all this is that its an ILLEGAL that got all his stuff but who are the tool times that passed this strange provision of the law in the first place, our esteemed elected officials, thats who.

So that gives the law the right to take his property and give it to illegals?? The rescue Ranch was part of the Minute Man project.....The police have the right to use force to subdue a suspect-but I've never heard the of them giving up property when found guilty of excessive force, the police have no moe right touse force than the common individual.......they guy was a felon, so what? Does this mean he is to be judged as a bad person for the rest of his life?? Evidently he paid his 'dept to society' in the eyes of the law.....so if your kid steals candy from a store and gets caught, the rest of his life he should be branded as a thief??

[Mike TRT]

Originally Posted by einheit 13

-but I've never heard the of them giving up property when found guilty of excessive force, the police have no moe right touse force than the common individual.......they guy was a felon, so what? Does this mean he is to be judged as a bad person for the rest of his life?? Evidently he paid his 'dept to society' in the eyes of the law

if a copper gets sued for punitive damages he loses a bunch of stuff

the police DO have more of a right to use force than the common individual

and a convicted felon can not possess a firearm ever again (in Illinois, cant even be caught with ANY dangerous weapon) judged as a bad guy forever? no. not in my eyes

but losing a ranch to the illegals because of some BS lawyer is wrong every day of the week

[Ed 2001 SS]

Convicted felon, illegally in possession of a firearm, takes the law into his own hands and gets sued for it. (Nothing but cookies and water and then let them go??? He didn't immediately turn them over to Border patrol, but instead detained them for an hour and let them go? C'mon he could have invented something better than that...)

He opened himself up to the liability. I'm not crying here.

[Ed 2001 SS]

Originally Posted by Mike TRT

and a convicted felon can not possess a firearm ever again (in Illinois, cant even be caught with ANY dangerous weapon) judged as a bad guy forever? no. not in my eyes

Convicted felons can go through the process of having their civil (and firearms) rights restored. In most states it's not too hard. They can choose not to go through the process and possess illegally. Again, it's their choice.

[A_Med]

It dosn't matter if the guy was scumbag or not. In this country even scumbag CITIZEN's have rights. The problem here is how in the hell does an ILLEGAL even have the right to sue somebody in this country for anything. I can see the criminal charge for the assault based on issues of human rights, but a Civil matter??? Lawyers should all be lining the bottom of the ocean. Thats the only solution.

[Ed 2001 SS]

Originally Posted by A_Med

It dosn't matter if the guy was scumbag or not. In this country even scumbag CITIZEN's have rights. The problem here is how in the hell does an ILLEGAL even have the right to sue somebody in this country for anything. I can see the criminal charge for the assault based on issues of human rights, but a Civil matter??? Lawyers should all be lining the bottom of the ocean. Thats the only solution.

In this country, all people have rights. Citizens have more rights than non-citizens. A person who is here illegally does not have the right to be here. They still have the right to be free of the treatment they allegedly received. The civil and / or criminal penalties serve as an incentive to prevent persons from taking advantage of other persons in the manner that was alleged.

[einheit 13]

Originally Posted by Ed 2001 SS

Convicted felons can go through the process of having their civil (and firearms) rights restored. In most states it's not too hard. They can choose not to go through the process and possess illegally. Again, it's their choice.

I had mine restored.....And no cops do not have 'the right', we've had this discussion before. It was proven in Pa a few years ago when a man took the law into his own hands.....went all the way to the supreme court.....guess what, they upheld the decision of the Pa state court, the man was found within his rights to do what he did to the assailent. Show me where it is written in law that we don't. You can't because there isn't.

Hmm, in louisianna you can shoot a car jacker.....in Texas you can shoot a trespasser, in Va you can shoot an UNARMED burgaler...and in some cities -like mine, he doesn't have to be 'in your house'.....