The GAS WAR - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

Son of Norway · 04-19-2006, 04:34 PM

Someone sent me a chain e-mail that got me thinking. (BTW I NEVER forward those things). The e-mail stated:

If everyone stopped buying gas from the largest producer (Exxon and Mobil) they would be forced to lower prices. This way, you can still buy gas, but Exxon / Mobil would be forced to lower their price. Conversely, their competitors would also be forced to lower their prices.

Could this work or is it an oversimplification? It makes sense on paper to me. Heck I can get $3 per gallon gas anywhere without going to Exxon or Mobil.

**einheit 13** · 04-19-2006, 04:59 PM

oversimplification, they know we need it and will end up buying it reguardless of the price. Also they'd complain to the gubbment and they'd give them a hand out at our expense.

**beardman2** · 04-19-2006, 05:58 PM

rush was talking about this today. I don't listen to him normally but it was on that station and it was interesting. He was going over the percentage of increase in crude and delivery costs. The current price is correct for the price of crude. It would be nice if there was an evil empire to topple and get lower gas prices but it looks like its all a bunch of BS from people that want to get elected.

one-eyed-fatman · 04-19-2006, 06:36 PM

Bush has basically handed the next election to the Democrats.

**beardman2** · 04-19-2006, 06:50 PM

its starting to look that way. I've already started to wonder if I should invest money in "evil" firearms.

Son of Norway · 04-19-2006, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

Bush has basically handed the next election to the Democrats.

With staunch supporters like funnygun, you may be right.

Jettubby · 04-19-2006, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son of Norway

Someone sent me a chain e-mail that got me thinking. (BTW I NEVER forward those things). The e-mail stated:

If everyone stopped buying gas from the largest producer (Exxon and Mobil) they would be forced to lower prices. This way, you can still buy gas, but Exxon / Mobil would be forced to lower their price. Conversely, their competitors would also be forced to lower their prices.

Could this work or is it an oversimplification? It makes sense on paper to me. Heck I can get $3 per gallon gas anywhere without going to Exxon or Mobil.

I like your thinking there but realistically it would never happen. How would you get everyone or even a majority to do it? I'm not convinced that all the oil company's are in bed with each other anyway. Too much back scratching and political favors. And don't just bash the republicans. The Dems are way into oil themselves. The entire political structure to fight the oil companys is corrupt.

Son of Norway · 04-19-2006, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jettubby

The entire political structure to fight the oil companys is corrupt.

That leaves it up to us.

For what it's worth, I won't buy from Exxon or Mobil.

**einheit 13** · 04-19-2006, 08:03 PM

Buy a Volvo, or any other kind of diesel and make your own fuel, bio diesel.
Saw it on TV and a guy in Richmond(?) let GW see his set up......average costs the guy said was about $.69 gal ang would be even less after the recoup from making the 'reactor" and haveing to replace the rubber fuel lines in his cars. He said he was averaging 31-46mpg and the exhaust smelled good too.......

mgeoffriau · 04-19-2006, 09:04 PM

What would this accomplish?

Let's suspend disbelief for a moment, and assume they would drop their prices.

As prices drop, people begin buying gas again. Gas companies raise prices again, possibly even higher than before, to compensate for their losses.

Do it again? Ok.

The deeper losses now push the gas prices much higher after the boycott.

Do it again? Ok.

The two largest petroleum suppliers declare bankruptcy. Both struggle to remain in business. Let's say one manages to regain its footing, but the other crumbles under the financial pressure.

Smaller companies step in to feed the demand. But without the resources of the larger companies, and the larger infrastructure, the inefficiency of their operations, unprepared to deal with a much larger demand, forces them to raise gas prices yet again to cover their investments in additional equipment.

Of course, this is entirely speculative. But it seems plausible to me, and at least shows one scenario where unintended consequences occur.

04-19-2006, 04:59 PM	#2
einheit 13 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia, C.S.A. Posts: 5,668	oversimplification, they know we need it and will end up buying it reguardless of the price. Also they'd complain to the gubbment and they'd give them a hand out at our expense. __________________ Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, the third time is enemy action “It is the lack of will power, and not the lack of arms which render us incapable of offering any serious resistance.”

04-19-2006, 05:58 PM	#3
beardman2 XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,950	rush was talking about this today. I don't listen to him normally but it was on that station and it was interesting. He was going over the percentage of increase in crude and delivery costs. The current price is correct for the price of crude. It would be nice if there was an evil empire to topple and get lower gas prices but it looks like its all a bunch of BS from people that want to get elected. __________________ - He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself. ~Thomas Paine I will not be involved with the dreams of angry men. Founding Documents Freedom isn't free: http://www.anysoldier.com

04-19-2006, 06:36 PM	#4
one-eyed-fatman XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,196	Bush has basically handed the next election to the Democrats. __________________ corporate America's logo: If at first you don't succeed lower your standards and beg the government for bailout money. Our governments bought and sold by corporate America like pigs going to market. I'm waking up at the start of the end of the world. http://home.houston.rr.com/gunpics/images/one%20eye.wav

04-19-2006, 06:50 PM	#5
beardman2 XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,950	its starting to look that way. I've already started to wonder if I should invest money in "evil" firearms. __________________ - He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself. ~Thomas Paine I will not be involved with the dreams of angry men. Founding Documents Freedom isn't free: http://www.anysoldier.com

04-19-2006, 08:03 PM	#9
einheit 13 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia, C.S.A. Posts: 5,668	Buy a Volvo, or any other kind of diesel and make your own fuel, bio diesel. Saw it on TV and a guy in Richmond(?) let GW see his set up......average costs the guy said was about $.69 gal ang would be even less after the recoup from making the 'reactor" and haveing to replace the rubber fuel lines in his cars. He said he was averaging 31-46mpg and the exhaust smelled good too....... __________________ Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, the third time is enemy action “It is the lack of will power, and not the lack of arms which render us incapable of offering any serious resistance.”

04-19-2006, 09:04 PM	#10
mgeoffriau XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jackson, MS Posts: 1,077	What would this accomplish? Let's suspend disbelief for a moment, and assume they would drop their prices. As prices drop, people begin buying gas again. Gas companies raise prices again, possibly even higher than before, to compensate for their losses. Do it again? Ok. The deeper losses now push the gas prices much higher after the boycott. Do it again? Ok. The two largest petroleum suppliers declare bankruptcy. Both struggle to remain in business. Let's say one manages to regain its footing, but the other crumbles under the financial pressure. Smaller companies step in to feed the demand. But without the resources of the larger companies, and the larger infrastructure, the inefficiency of their operations, unprepared to deal with a much larger demand, forces them to raise gas prices yet again to cover their investments in additional equipment. Of course, this is entirely speculative. But it seems plausible to me, and at least shows one scenario where unintended consequences occur. __________________ I felt early on I wasn't going to be a respectable citizen. -- Cormac McCarthy We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode