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Old 03-09-2010, 05:11 PM   #1
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Okay... as the Warmists, Gaiaists, Earthers First, PETAphiles, et al, circle the wagons following the falling apart of AGW/Climate Change, new targets have to be acquired, else all the self-righteous indignation goes for naught....

From Michele Malkin today:
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Obama’s war on fishing?!?!?!
By Michelle Malkin • March 9, 2010 05:00 PM

Longtime readers know I love to fish and have been at war with the anti-fishing nuts at PETA for years.
JWF flags a story today from ESPN about Obama regulatory maneuvers that look to limit fishing access:
The Obama administration will accept no more public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation’s oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters.

This announcement comes at the time when the situation supposedly still is “fluid” and the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force still hasn’t issued its final report on zoning uses of these waters.

That’s a disappointment, but not really a surprise for fishing industry insiders who have negotiated for months with officials at the Council on Environmental Quality and bureaucrats on the task force. These angling advocates have come to suspect that public input into the process was a charade from the beginning.

“When the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW) completed their successful campaign to convince the Ontario government to end one of the best scientifically managed big game hunts in North America (spring bear), the results of their agenda had severe economic impacts on small family businesses and the tourism economy of communities across northern and central Ontario,” said Phil Morlock, director of environmental affairs for Shimano.

“Now we see NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) and the administration planning the future of recreational fishing access in America based on a similar agenda of these same groups and other Big Green anti-use organizations, through an Executive Order by the President. The current U.S. direction with fishing is a direct parallel to what happened in Canada with hunting: The negative economic impacts on hard working American families and small businesses are being ignored.
Sacrificing jobs for the green agenda. Conducting Kabuki theater on public input. Business as usual for the Obama White House.
See United We Fish for more info on how to push back.

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From ESPN Outdoors Saltwater:
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Updated: March 9, 2010, 1:59 PM ET
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Obama administration will accept no more public input for federal fishery strategy
By Robert Montgomery
ESPNOutdoors.com
The Obama administration will accept no more public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters.

AP/Luis M. Alvarez
One sign at the United We Fish rally at the Capital summed up the feelings of recreational and commercial fishermen.

This announcement comes at the time when the situation supposedly still is "fluid" and the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force still hasn't issued its final report on zoning uses of these waters.That's a disappointment, but not really a surprise for fishing industry insiders who have negotiated for months with officials at the Council on Environmental Quality and bureaucrats on the task force. These angling advocates have come to suspect that public input into the process was a charade from the beginning.

"When the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW) completed their successful campaign to convince the Ontario government to end one of the best scientifically managed big game hunts in North America (spring bear), the results of their agenda had severe economic impacts on small family businesses and the tourism economy of communities across northern and central Ontario," said Phil Morlock, director of environmental affairs for Shimano.

"Now we see NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) and the administration planning the future of recreational fishing access in America based on a similar agenda of these same groups and other Big Green anti-use organizations, through an Executive Order by the President. The current U.S. direction with fishing is a direct parallel to what happened in Canada with hunting: The negative economic impacts on hard working American families and small businesses are being ignored.

"In spite of what we hear daily in the press about the President's concern for jobs and the economy and contrary to what he stated in the June order creating this process, we have seen no evidence from NOAA or the task force that recreational fishing and related jobs are receiving any priority."

Consequently, unless anglers speak up and convince their Congressional representatives to stop this bureaucratic freight train, it appears that the task force will issue a final report for "marine spatial planning" by late March, with President Barack Obama then issuing an Executive Order to implement its recommendations — whatever they may be.

Led by NOAA's Jane Lubchenco, the task force has shown no overt dislike of recreational angling, but its indifference to the economic, social and biological value of the sport has been deafening.

Additionally, Lubchenco and others in the administration have close ties to environmental groups who would like nothing better than to ban recreational angling. And evidence suggests that these organizations have been the engine behind the task force since before Obama issued a memo creating it last June.

As ESPN previously reported, WWF, Greenpeace, Defenders of Wildlife, Pew Environment Group and others produced a document entitled "Transition Green" shortly after Obama was elected in 2008. What has happened since suggests that the task force has been in lockstep with that position paper.
Then in late summer, just after he created the task force, these groups produced "Recommendations for the Adoption and Implementation of an Oceans, Coasts, and Great Lakes National Policy." This document makes repeated references to "overfishing," but doesn't once reference recreational angling, its importance, and its benefits, both to participants and the resource.

Additionally, some of these same organizations have revealed their anti-fishing bias by playing fast and loose with "facts," in attempts to ban tackle containing lead in the United States and Canada.

That same tunnel vision, in which recreational angling and commercial fishing are indiscriminately lumped together as harmful to the resource, has persisted with the task force, despite protests by the angling industry.
As more evidence of collusion, the green groups began clamoring for an Executive Order to implement the task force's recommendations even before the public comment period ended in February. Fishing advocates had no idea that this was coming.
Perhaps not so coincidentally, the New York Times reported on Feb. 12 that "President Obama and his team are preparing an array of actions using his executive power to advance energy, environmental, fiscal and other domestic policy priorities."

Morlock fears that "what we're seeing coming at us is an attempted dismantling of the science-based fish and wildlife model that has served us so well. There's no basis in science for the agendas of these groups who are trying to push the public out of being able to fish and recreate. "Conflicts (user) are overstated and problems are manufactured. It's all just an excuse to put us off the water."

In the wake of the task force's framework document, the Congressional Sportsmen's Foundation (CSF) and its partners in the U.S. Recreational Fishing & Boating Coalition against voiced their concerns to the administration.

"Some of the potential policy implications of this interim framework have the potential to be a real threat to recreational anglers who not only contribute billions of dollars to the economy and millions of dollars in tax revenues to support fisheries conservation, but who are also the backbone of the American fish and wildlife conservation ethic," said CSF President Jeff Crane.

Morlock, a member of the CSF board, added, "There are over one million jobs in America supported coast to coast by recreational fishing. The task force has not included any accountability requirements in their reports for evaluating or mitigating how the new policies they are drafting will impact the fishing industry or related economies.

"Given that the scope of this process appears to include a new set of policies for all coastal and inland waters of the United States, the omission of economic considerations is inexcusable."

This is not the only access issue threatening the public's right to fish, but it definitely is the most serious, according to Chris Horton, national conservation director for BASS.

"With what's being created, the same principles could apply inland as apply to the oceans," he said. "Under the guise of 'marine spatial planning' entire watersheds could be shut down, even 2,000 miles up a river drainage from the ocean.

"Every angler needs to be aware because if it's not happening in your backyard today or tomorrow, it will be eventually. "We have one of the largest voting blocks in the country and we need to use it. We must not sit idly by."
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:02 PM   #2
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JM, this was discussed back in October.

Obama isn't going to 'kill' the domestic fishing industry.

Are We REALLY gonna let this happen??

IMHO it's not going to amount to any restrictions in the US. For God's sake...Obama is terrified to try and pass an Assult Weapons Ban.

Who doesn't like fishing? This would be an even bigger public relations disaster for the president.

Talk about WANTING to lose the election in FY12! That would be one way to do it.
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I don't even see this happening. The states would go bonkers.
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Wouldn't much matter if it does happen....won't affect us here. TX owns its waters and coastlines out to the Federal boundary. That treaty he can't get around at least.

CM, this came up TODAY on ESPN....Obama moving to limit fishing access - ESPN They are still talking about it. The very fact they are still talking about it should tell you they have some intent here.

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“Now we see NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) and the administration planning the future of recreational fishing access in America based on a similar agenda of these same groups and other Big Green anti-use organizations, through an Executive Order by the President. The current U.S. direction with fishing is a direct parallel to what happened in Canada with hunting: The negative economic impacts on hard working American families and small businesses are being ignored.
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JM, this was discussed back in October.

Obama isn't going to 'kill' the domestic fishing industry.

Are We REALLY gonna let this happen??

IMHO it's not going to amount to any restrictions in the US. For God's sake...Obama is terrified to try and pass an Assult Weapons Ban.

Who doesn't like fishing? This would be an even bigger public relations disaster for the president.

Talk about WANTING to lose the election in FY12! That would be one way to do it.
I agree that he won't "kill" the domestic fishing industry BUT Obama is in the dead middle of a public relations disaster as we speak in pushing his healthcare agenda come hell or high water. So obviously the guy will do whatever he darn well pleases whether or not "we" like it.

He's already set to lose the election FY12. He's already figured out the one way to do it.
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While I tend to dismiss this, it is something to keep an eye on. Anytime the envirofreaks are involved, we should pay attention.
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JM, this was discussed back in October.

Obama isn't going to 'kill' the domestic fishing industry.

Are We REALLY gonna let this happen??

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I guess I missed out on the party last October, and thought this was new news. Guess I'm not omniscient.

As to it being political suicide to kill the domestic (or even recreational) fishing industries... well, there's plenty of seppuku going around... proposals being strongly pushed by the Administration such as Obamacare, Cap & Trade, Carbon taxing, Follow-up Bailouts... and there's probably a few more.
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jmichna, you are correct..the articles came out today. They are follow ups and continuations of the ones from last year. The talks are still going on and the issue is not settled. Hell, we talked about health crap last year and it still seems to be on the front burner. Just because we talked about it once before means absolutely nothing. Ya did good.
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They can take my rods and reels when they pry them from my cold dead fingers.
From my right hand anyways...... I need my left hand to hold my beer.

If they no longer want input from citizens then I guess I'm no longer obliged to report any swordfish catches to NOAA.
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