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**Wired** · 08-21-2009, 09:43 AM

Whatever it is, STICK WITH IT! I'm tired of this crap that the PV is closed, now it's open, but un-moderated, now it's closed because of complaints, now it's open for gun and 2A stuff only, now it's open for everything, blah blah blah. Do it and stick with it. If it's un-moderated, leave it un-moderated.

Maybe there's a way to remove the "report' button from that forum. If someone truly has a problem with a particular thread/ post, they can PM the mod online or all of them. This will take a bit more work on the reporters part, but they can do that if they're truly offended. You may be receiving some of these reports because it's easy to click a button or two.

Also, you know what you're getting into when you have to accept a separate agreement to be in there. If you don't want to be in there because people offend you, leave (except for blatantly obvious CoC violations)!

Personally, I learn a lot from the PV and would like to see it remain open, for all political issues. I know this is a gun forum, but if you're going to use that logic let's get rid of the Video Game forum. In fact, this is a XD website, let's get rid of the AR and AK forums too. There should not even be a sub-group of "Non-Firearms Related" if you're going to use that logic.

I don't want to see any forums closed, AR/ AK, Video game, etc... We have a great group of people with a vast array of knowledge and I have learned a lot from them. Even if it's not firearms related, I have learned a lot.

All in all, please stick with your decision because this flip-flopping is ridiculous. I say leave PV how it is and move on.

AZXD · 08-21-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wired

Whatever it is, STICK WITH IT! I'm tired of this crap that the PV is closed, now it's open, but un-moderated, now it's closed because of complaints, now it's open for gun and 2A stuff only, now it's open for everything, blah blah blah. Do it and stick with it. If it's un-moderated, leave it un-moderated.

Maybe there's a way to remove the "report' button from that forum. If someone truly has a problem with a particular thread/ post, they can PM the mod online or all of them. This will take a bit more work on the reporters part, but they can do that if they're truly offended. You may be receiving some of these reports because it's easy to click a button or two.

Also, you know what you're getting into when you have to accept a separate agreement to be in there. If you don't want to be in there because people offend you, leave (except for blatantly obvious CoC violations)!

Personally, I learn a lot from the PV and would like to see it remain open, for all political issues. I know this is a gun forum, but if you're going to use that logic let's get rid of the Video Game forum. In fact, this is a XD website, let's get rid of the AR and AK forums too. There should not even be a sub-group of "Non-Firearms Related" if you're going to use that logic.

I don't want to see any forums closed, AR/ AK, Video game, etc... We have a great group of people with a vast array of knowledge and I have learned a lot from them. Even if it's not firearms related, I have learned a lot.

All in all, please stick with your decision because this flip-flopping is ridiculous. I say leave PV how it is and move on.

**mtcraigco** · 08-21-2009, 10:13 AM

For the record, I am not getting reports right now anyway, whether they are not being sent or my mod settings need adjusted I do not know.

The only way to gripe to me right now is via PM and I think I'll leave it that way for now

I am not doing this because of folks griping, I am doing because of what I personally observe in here.

This place is a shade of it's former self and it either needs put out of it's misery or given some good medicine

**NunyaBinnez** · 08-21-2009, 10:23 AM

I thought PV participation was voluntary. I know that if I ever get fed-up with PV, I'll stop participating and maybe even romove it from my group memberships. Simple as that.

bowl443 · 08-21-2009, 10:26 AM

If you can't take the heat....

CMfromIL · 08-21-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bowl443

If you can't take the heat....

There is a big difference between 'heat' taken on an opposing view, and a vitrolistic post demeaning the poster on a personal level.

If that's what you want, the boards should be renamed "No Debate PV. If you are not Far Right, or Hate Obama, Stay Away"

The debate is great. It's the unneeded personal attacks that seem to have gotten all of us here now.

Teksan80 · 08-21-2009, 10:33 AM

I like the PV section. I enjoy the debates and I have learned a lot from it. I think it should be fairly simple; we have to go through extra work to get in here and it is explained that it is totally voluntary. If someone gets there feelings hurt too bad. Have to tell ya I have never seen a political discussion where someone did not get there feelers hurt. If you dont like other peoples opinions then you should not be in here plain and simple.

**Carnivorous** · 08-21-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SpringfieldXD.40

This should be stressed. I very much enjoy the discussion of politics, but I choose to do so on another forum...a forum where no matter how much we disagree, a certain level of respect is not only expected...it is demanded.

Where, if you don't mind?

**Carnivorous** · 08-21-2009, 10:39 AM

PSC, that was VERY well said, thank you! I heartily agree.

**TMP** · 08-21-2009, 10:46 AM

I like the PV as well, but the one thing that I think is crap about it is this:
-Someone posts
-more posts and opinioins follow
-some azzhat goes way off topic on the next post to bait responses that have nothing to do with the OP. Makes me want to punch babies.

View Poll Results: What is the best course of action for the PV and the good of XDTalk?
Leave it alone, let it self-moderate.	35	40.23%
Drop the ban hammer on those who can't "get along"	26	29.89%
Re-focus it. This IS a gun forum, rabid dissenters need to go away.	7	8.05%
Moderate it very tightly, enforce the rules evenly.	21	24.14%
Does not really matter to me, I'm here on XDTalk for gun stuff	8	9.20%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

08-21-2009, 09:43 AM	#11
Wired XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Grand Junction, CO Posts: 5,384	Whatever it is, STICK WITH IT! I'm tired of this crap that the PV is closed, now it's open, but un-moderated, now it's closed because of complaints, now it's open for gun and 2A stuff only, now it's open for everything, blah blah blah. Do it and stick with it. If it's un-moderated, leave it un-moderated. Maybe there's a way to remove the "report' button from that forum. If someone truly has a problem with a particular thread/ post, they can PM the mod online or all of them. This will take a bit more work on the reporters part, but they can do that if they're truly offended. You may be receiving some of these reports because it's easy to click a button or two. Also, you know what you're getting into when you have to accept a separate agreement to be in there. If you don't want to be in there because people offend you, leave (except for blatantly obvious CoC violations)! Personally, I learn a lot from the PV and would like to see it remain open, for all political issues. I know this is a gun forum, but if you're going to use that logic let's get rid of the Video Game forum. In fact, this is a XD website, let's get rid of the AR and AK forums too. There should not even be a sub-group of "Non-Firearms Related" if you're going to use that logic. I don't want to see any forums closed, AR/ AK, Video game, etc... We have a great group of people with a vast array of knowledge and I have learned a lot from them. Even if it's not firearms related, I have learned a lot. All in all, please stick with your decision because this flip-flopping is ridiculous. I say leave PV how it is and move on. __________________ "I guess when Obama says this stuff, I don't think he really means it. And that gives me hope." --Jason Jones “You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom... The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else... You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.” --Dr. Adrian Rogers
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08-21-2009, 10:13 AM	#13
mtcraigco XDTalk Sheriff Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 3,031	For the record, I am not getting reports right now anyway, whether they are not being sent or my mod settings need adjusted I do not know. The only way to gripe to me right now is via PM and I think I'll leave it that way for now I am not doing this because of folks griping, I am doing because of what I personally observe in here. This place is a shade of it's former self and it either needs put out of it's misery or given some good medicine __________________ Mark Craighead Owner/Founder CrossBreed Holsters LLC http://www.crossbreedholsters.com Owner XDTalk.com 2 Chronicles 7:14 NIV If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from Heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
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08-21-2009, 10:23 AM	#14
NunyaBinnez XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Kentucky, USA Posts: 280	I thought PV participation was voluntary. I know that if I ever get fed-up with PV, I'll stop participating and maybe even romove it from my group memberships. Simple as that. __________________ "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." - Patrick Henry lib-er-tar-i-an n. 1789 1: an advocate of the doctrine of free will 2 a: a person who upholds the principles of individual liberty especially of thought and action b capitalized: a member of a political party advocating libertarian principles
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08-21-2009, 10:26 AM	#15
bowl443 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: tx Posts: 1,573	If you can't take the heat.... __________________ "Today, my friends, we each have one day less, every one of us. And joy is the only thing that slows the clock." -John D McDonald via Travis McGee "Livin' with Louie dog's the only way to stay sane" -Bradley Nowell
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08-21-2009, 10:33 AM	#17
Teksan80 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Farmington NM Posts: 587	I like the PV section. I enjoy the debates and I have learned a lot from it. I think it should be fairly simple; we have to go through extra work to get in here and it is explained that it is totally voluntary. If someone gets there feelings hurt too bad. Have to tell ya I have never seen a political discussion where someone did not get there feelers hurt. If you dont like other peoples opinions then you should not be in here plain and simple. __________________ *XD .45 Service* *Winchester 1300 Defender* *.25-06 Mauser Belgium* "To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." - General George Washington "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious." - Sun Tzu
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08-21-2009, 10:39 AM	#19
Carnivorous XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 4,630	PSC, that was VERY well said, thank you! I heartily agree. __________________ Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it." [Gen. 4:6-7] *Carnivorous' Monster Boudreau Joke Thread!*
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08-21-2009, 10:46 AM	#20
TMP XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,768	I like the PV as well, but the one thing that I think is crap about it is this: -Someone posts -more posts and opinioins follow -some azzhat goes way off topic on the next post to bait responses that have nothing to do with the OP. Makes me want to punch babies. __________________ ______________________ Para Ordnance PRX1445 Limited Edition RRA Elite Comp Stag Model 2 (home build) XD45 Tactical XD9 Subcompact (Yel/Grn TFO's) Wilson Border Patrol 870 Green (Surefire 618FA forend with light) Beretta U22 Neos INOX Ruger 10/22 #8. If this is your first night at 'Fight Club', you have to fight.
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