Liberals clinically mad, concludes top psychiatrist

[KEVWYO]

Originally Posted by trik396

I can give you reasons why healthcare costs are out of control. The government and it's liberal regulations. The fact that illegals walk into an emergency room and get top notch quality health care for free.... oh... wait a minute... it can't be FREE... yep... you and I pay for it with inflated health care costs.
I work in a hospital. I see it everyday.

Wish I could remember where I saw the study but it basically shot holes in your argument. What you're suggesting (according to the study) has very little impact on the health care cost issues in general. As memory serves it was someone here on XDTalk that posted the study.

[KEVWYO]

Originally Posted by LittleDave

Companies shouldn't get any breaks to provide insurance, individuals shouldn't be taxed on the money they pay for insurance. You should be able to get policies just to cover unlikely event of stuff like finding out you have cancer, or needing a new kidney.

It's not selfish.

As to the bolded black: If companies don't get any breaks for offering health insurance is it conceivable that they might just opt out of offering it at all? Wouldn't that make an already bad situation worse?

As to the blue bolded: I agree about a person not getting taxed on their insurance bennies. To me that is just total BS and that's why I oppossed it when McCain talked about it when he floated the idea during the campaign. Now I see Obama is mulling the idea over and it pisses me off just the same.

[trik396]

Originally Posted by KEVWYO

Wish I could remember where I saw the study but it basically shot holes in your argument. What you're suggesting (according to the study) has very little impact on the health care cost issues in general. As memory serves it was someone here on XDTalk that posted the study.

Please find the "study"... I'd love to see how a 25% influx of non-paying, (at my hospital) non-insured illegals COULDN'T hurt the bottom line on a hospital/healthcare.

[thelongone13]

Originally Posted by ryr8828

Liberals just don't think right, there's no doubt about that.

They worry more about saving a tree or a seal than a human fetus.

They think gun violence will end by taking guns away from law abiding citizens.

They defend homosexuality yet giggle with glee and point fingers anytime a Republican is outed as being gay.

They praise single mothers yet damn Bristol Palin and try to make her out to be a whore.

They support war when a democrat wages it yet decry it as terrible and proclaim the war lost when a Republican wages it.

Then my favorite, they come here and claim to own guns and support gun ownership, yet vote and campaign for the biggest gun grabber in the history of US politics.

It's all about power, they want it, and are incapable of being ashamed of their hypocrisy no matter how huge it is. It's either that or they are completely clueless, I believe it's a little of both.

Allow me to present a few counterpoints. First, I take offense at the liberal bashing in the first paragraph. Of course we think.

When it comes to tree, seal, or human fetus, I really don't care about any of them. Kill them all, who cares?

No, I support allowing our citizens to arm themselves. Lots of liberals do, some... don't. It's a personal choice.

We snicker because it's a seemingly conservative idea that homosexuality is bad and should be opposed, so when an advocate against homosexuality turns out to be gay, well, that's just ironic isn't it?

You don't see something wrong with teenage pregnancy? Nobody likes teenage pregnancy!

Nobody really wants war. War is hell.

I have a gun. I don't "claim" to own one, I DO own one. I voted Obama. Deal with it. You voted McCain. I dealt with that long ago. You probably voted G W Bush too. Build a bridge and get over it.

I will not allow myself to be called a hypocrite, nor am I clueless. Stop generalizing half our nation. It doesn't reflect well.

[Yuppicide]

Anybody remember a Government Funded study that came out in '03 called:

"Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition"

It concluded that conservatism can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in "fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity".

http://terpconnect.umd.edu/~hannahk/bulletin.pdf

Now to test my theory:

All of the "Conservatives" on here who were so quick to agree with the "Top Psychiatrist" findings that "Liberals are Clinically mad", will now ***** and moan about how the above study is Biased Bullshyte....

...and all the "Liberals" on here, who bitched and moaned about how the "Crazy Liberal" study was Biased Bullshyte, will eat up the "Crazy Conservative" study with a spoon!!!



Seems like people are willing to believe anything, if it fits within their own beliefs and agenda.

In fact theres a word for it:

PROPAGANDA


They want you to hate each other. As long as they can get you to "pick sides" and demonize the oposition, you'll never notice the crap your own side is pulling.

I can't wait until the day when regular Americans wake up, and realize that the "Evil Neo-Cons" and the "Loonie Lefties" are both full of shyte!

They both want total power and control, and niether actually gives a rats ass about you!



"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government."
— Edward Abbey

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[thelongone13]

Originally Posted by Yuppicide

Anybody remember a Government Funded study that came out in '03 called:

"Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition"

It concluded that conservatism can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in "fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity".

http://terpconnect.umd.edu/~hannahk/bulletin.pdf

Now to test my theory:

All of the "Conservatives" on here who were so quick to agree with the "Top Psychiatrist" findings that "Liberals are Clinically mad", will now ***** and moan about how the above study is Biased Bullshyte....

...and all the "Liberals" on here, who bitched and moaned about how the "Crazy Liberal" study was Biased Bullshyte, will eat up the "Crazy Conservative" study with a spoon!!!



Seems like people are willing to believe anything, if it fits within their own beliefs and agenda.

In fact theres a word for it:

PROPAGANDA


They want you to hate each other. As long as they can get you to "pick sides" and demonize the oposition, you'll never notice the crap your own side is pulling.

I can't wait until the day when regular Americans wake up, and realize that the "Evil Neo-Cons" and the "Loonie Lefties" are both full of shyte!

They both want total power and control, and niether actually gives a rats ass about you!



"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government."
— Edward Abbey

.

You know what, everyone's nuts to somebody. And you're right, but this won't work because you pointed this fact out. Now everyone who agrees will keep their keyboards away, as will the folks that disagree. I don't think all Conservatives are wrong just because we disagree on a lot of topics, I just think we disagree. Plain and simple.

[KEVWYO]

Originally Posted by Yuppicide

Anybody remember a Government Funded study that came out in '03 called:

"Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition"

It concluded that conservatism can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in "fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity".

http://terpconnect.umd.edu/~hannahk/bulletin.pdf

Now to test my theory:

All of the "Conservatives" on here who were so quick to agree with the "Top Psychiatrist" findings that "Liberals are Clinically mad", will now ***** and moan about how the above study is Biased Bullshyte....

...and all the "Liberals" on here, who bitched and moaned about how the "Crazy Liberal" study was Biased Bullshyte, will eat up the "Crazy Conservative" study with a spoon!!!



Seems like people are willing to believe anything, if it fits within their own beliefs and agenda.

In fact theres a word for it:

PROPAGANDA


They want you to hate each other. As long as they can get you to "pick sides" and demonize the oposition, you'll never notice the crap your own side is pulling.

I can't wait until the day when regular Americans wake up, and realize that the "Evil Neo-Cons" and the "Loonie Lefties" are both full of shyte!

They both want total power and control, and niether actually gives a rats ass about you!



"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government."
— Edward Abbey

.

AZXD .... did you see this or are just going to ignore it because it runs counter to your OP?

[billbrasky]

Originally Posted by thelongone13

Allow me to present a few counterpoints. First, I take offense at the liberal bashing in the first paragraph. Of course we think.

When it comes to tree, seal, or human fetus, I really don't care about any of them. Kill them all, who cares?

No, I support allowing our citizens to arm themselves. Lots of liberals do, some... don't. It's a personal choice.

We snicker because it's a seemingly conservative idea that homosexuality is bad and should be opposed, so when an advocate against homosexuality turns out to be gay, well, that's just ironic isn't it?

You don't see something wrong with teenage pregnancy? Nobody likes teenage pregnancy!

Nobody really wants war. War is hell.

I have a gun. I don't "claim" to own one, I DO own one. I voted Obama. Deal with it. You voted McCain. I dealt with that long ago. You probably voted G W Bush too. Build a bridge and get over it.

I will not allow myself to be called a hypocrite, nor am I clueless. Stop generalizing half our nation. It doesn't reflect well.

please follow your own rules.

your generalizing.

Yes many folks want war.

Many countries want to wipe their neighbor off the map, take all their power resources, etc. They want to divert rivers, starve them out. They hate them over stuff from 100, 400, even 1,000 years ago.

Many folks from military officers want war to advance career, hundreds of countries and leaders want both their neighbors to fight, and weaken each other so they can sneak up and beat the snot out of them both.

There are billions of folks who want war.

Stop your generalizations and please atleast follow your own silly made up as we go rules.

$10 says you cant go 3 days with out a series of wild generalizations.

[billbrasky]

Originally Posted by Yuppicide

Anybody remember a Government Funded study that came out in '03 called:

"Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition"

It concluded that conservatism can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in "fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity".

http://terpconnect.umd.edu/~hannahk/bulletin.pdf

Now to test my theory:

All of the "Conservatives" on here who were so quick to agree with the "Top Psychiatrist" findings that "Liberals are Clinically mad", will now ***** and moan about how the above study is Biased Bullshyte....

...and all the "Liberals" on here, who bitched and moaned about how the "Crazy Liberal" study was Biased Bullshyte, will eat up the "Crazy Conservative" study with a spoon!!!



Seems like people are willing to believe anything, if it fits within their own beliefs and agenda.

In fact theres a word for it:

PROPAGANDA


They want you to hate each other. As long as they can get you to "pick sides" and demonize the oposition, you'll never notice the crap your own side is pulling.

I can't wait until the day when regular Americans wake up, and realize that the "Evil Neo-Cons" and the "Loonie Lefties" are both full of shyte!

They both want total power and control, and niether actually gives a rats ass about you!



"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government."
— Edward Abbey

.

liberals are rationally and logically bankrupt. They have no scruples. The stuff they want is for others to do in the name of fairness.

You could not be more different than conservatism.

liberals are sick, its easy to prove, because they think they have rights, and say they want fairness, and blah blah blah, but all the stuff they want, its for OTHERS to do. Not them.

Most real liberals who dont do it to be cool or out of ignorance of the policies, and vote what their spouse votes etc, but people like etta, delija, kev etc. are emotionally stunted.

They are no more sophisticated than a early elememtary school kid. Some are bordering on sociopathic, the lies they must tell themself, and amp them self up to belive inorder for their house of cards to stand is truely amazing.

I do agree the leaders are screwing us Yuppi, i dont agree that no one is noticing. I dont know where you got that.

The idea that if we all hold hands and the pendulem swings wildly to the left and socialism and we sit in a cumbaya circle then they will listen to us if we just get along? Thats pretty fawked up and out there. Thats not going to happen.

Fighting liberals and socialism does in no way enable leaders to screw me over more, that is a terrible assumption and hyptothesis.

[billbrasky]

Originally Posted by KEVWYO

As to the bolded black: If companies don't get any breaks for offering health insurance is it conceivable that they might just opt out of offering it at all? Wouldn't that make an already bad situation worse?

As to the blue bolded: I agree about a person not getting taxed on their insurance bennies. To me that is just total BS and that's why I oppossed it when McCain talked about it when he floated the idea during the campaign. Now I see Obama is mulling the idea over and it pisses me off just the same.

You have a fundeMENTAL lack of understanding.

Health insurance is a benefit. Its something that companies can do easily in terms of saving you time writing checks, and paperwork, and they can get you in a group plan which saves some money.

There is nothing, absolutely NOTHING stoping you are anyone with a check account from getting insurance. If companies dont offer it, then who cares. Thats the market. Lots of big places as of a few years ago offered conceirge service, massages, child care, a gym, dry cleaning etc. Many no longer do. OHHH NOES! HOW WILL I GET MY DRY CLEANING DONE! OHH NOES.

Do you have any idea how stupid you sound.

You do not have even a basic understanding of how to get insurance do you?

No it wouldnt make a bad situation worse, you just go out and get it yourself if you care, and if you dont care then you pay out of pocket.

Not all jobs offered health insurance for all of time, this is more of a last 40 years developement.