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Old 02-09-2007, 06:51 AM   #41
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Old 02-09-2007, 07:30 AM   #42
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I am pro-life on spiritual grounds but when it comes to politics I go pro-choice. I think its wrong to use abortion for birth control, I think adoption is much better. I also think that if you want an abortion you should have to pay for it not the government. However I don't think the government should make it illegal as this is a religious issue and not a criminal one. If a woman get an abortion it’s between her and god. And he should be the one to judge her for it not a jury.

That’s my take. This thread does seem like a stretch. Both sides of the Abortion debate are nuts. We have pro- lifers killing abortion doctors (how anti-life is that) and we have pro choice people not giving a damn about the fathers rights or the rights of their un-born child. It’s a tough subject that frankly should be left out of politics.
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I am pro-life on spiritual grounds but when it comes to politics I go pro-choice. I think its wrong to use abortion for birth control, I think adoption is much better. I also think that if you want an abortion you should have to pay for it not the government. However I don't think the government should make it illegal as this is a religious issue and not a criminal one. If a woman get an abortion it’s between her and god. And he should be the one to judge her for it not a jury.

That’s my take. This thread does seem like a stretch. Both sides of the Abortion debate are nuts. We have pro- lifers killing abortion doctors (how anti-life is that) and we have pro choice people not giving a damn about the fathers rights or the rights of their un-born child. It’s a tough subject that frankly should be left out of politics.
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Personally, I'm no fan of abortion. I'm a believer in "If you can't feed it, don't breed it", but I do believe that it is based on choice. I think it's irresponsible, with the slew of birth control available, that there should be unwanted pregnancies. However, I see no problem to an abortion if it's in the case of rape, and/or severe risk to the mother concerning health issues. Let's face it, women are strong, very strong to give birth. But the older they get the more dangerous giving birth can be.

It is personal responsibility, for the most part (Rape being a different case) should be emphasized. If you don't want a child, take birth control pills! Have him wear a condom! If you're one of these who sleep around, KEEP YOUR LEGS SHUT!

To sum it up: Abortion ONLY in cases of Rape or health risks, BUT still all the choice of the mother and father.
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Personally, I'm no fan of abortion. I'm a believer in "If you can't feed it, don't breed it", but I do believe that it is based on choice. I think it's irresponsible, with the slew of birth control available, that there should be unwanted pregnancies. However, I see no problem to an abortion if it's in the case of rape, and/or severe risk to the mother concerning health issues. Let's face it, women are strong, very strong to give birth. But the older they get the more dangerous giving birth can be.

It is personal responsibility, for the most part (Rape being a different case) should be emphasized. If you don't want a child, take birth control pills! Have him wear a condom! If you're one of these who sleep around, KEEP YOUR LEGS SHUT!

To sum it up: Abortion ONLY in cases of Rape or health risks, BUT still all the choice of the mother and father.
Good post.

The problem that the right has run into when trying to scale-back abortions, is that when the propose new laws banning the practice they don't include exceptions for rape, incest, and risk to the mother's life. These laws keep getting turned down by voters for that reason.

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It is interesting that BD and other liberals think this is sick and abortion is perfectly natural and normal. He thinks it's a good arguement for the Pro-life group, but actually puts him in the same dillemea from the other vantage point. Stupid is as stupid does!
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I know what you mean, Frank. It is pretty sad the lack of the value of life a lot of people have who just want to have an "abortion on a whim", of course not talking about rape/health risks.

I'm far from the perfect person, chances are I'm gonna end up with a pitch fork in my ass in the afterlife, but I'll never have to explain why I took a life. I can't help but feel pity for those who would kill a child. Of course, in the case of rape, I believe it's standard procedure (correct me if I'm wrong) for "morning after" medication to be given at the medical examination. And as for the health risk, that's to be examined by a professional. But to destroy a life that was the result of concentual intercourse, just because you didn't want to take precautions, is not just irresponsible, but disgusting.
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But to destroy a life that was the result of concentual intercourse, just because you didn't want to take precautions, is not just irresponsible, but disgusting.
That is the main reason that I am opposed to abortions, except for cases of rape, incest, and dangers to the life of a mother.

Good post--you summed that up very well.

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according to a leaked copy of a rule due to be finalized by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency later this week. The document was released by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and Reps. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) and Hilda Solis (D-Calif.) earlier today.
Another thing to point out here. Why are the dems leaking info? I thought Bush was bad for leaking info.
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Another thing to point out here. Why are the dems leaking info? I thought Bush was bad for leaking info.
They also ignore when the NY Times leaks classified information.

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Correct me if i'm wrong, but abortions due to rape, incest, health only constitute somewhere around 5% or less. It's not even a viable part of the debate. But yet that is what Liberals center their whole debate on. Kinda like the stats on gun deaths vs. doctor neglegence.
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