Anti-Abortion ? Read this

[NewXD40fun]

Originally Posted by bd

So taking your conclusion it can be said that because the Democrats are in the majority - most voters are pro-choice?

YES. Without the pro-death-by-abortion-rights vote the Democrats are sunk. Obvious.

Originally Posted by bd

But according to you, the people have spoken and they don't want the government legislating morality.

Isn't that what you said....?

bd

Nope, you put words in my mouth. Democrat voters do not want the government giving the same right to life to the unborn as they were given, they want that kill option. Democrats are darn-near a one-issue party - abortion.

Has there ever been a pro-life Democrat Presidential candidate? I don't think so. I think even Jimmy Carter supported RoeWade. All other issues can be flip-flopped by Dem candidates...EXCEPT ABORTION.





Tom

[NMCB3]

Regardless of where you sit on the abortion debate brickboy hit the nail on the head when he described it as wedge issue. Both party's know it, and they skillfully exploit it for votes. One problem with the abortion controversy as now defined, is the infamous Roe v. Wade. The problem with that ruling is not that it "legalized abortion" for it did not, it simply usurped authority from the state legislatures. At the time several states already allowed abortion. NY and CA were two such states,others prohibited it.
Under the ninth and tenth amendments any powers not delegated to the federal government are reserved to the states. That is the genius of our "Federal" system,the separation of powers. The Constitution is silent on the issue, therefore the topic of abortion is a state matter. Each state should decide the issue itself. Roe v. Wade subverts that system, as would proposed legislation to federally ban abortions. Removing the abortion issue from the federal courts and placing it in the rightful hands of the state legislatures, where the will of the people expresses itself, and where the founders intended such matters to be dealt with, ultimately protects everyones liberty's including those of the unborn. It would also remove the issue,and subsequently a massive wedge from national politics, thus focusing voters attention on other equally important issues.
Abortion is merely one example of federal government usurpation of state sovereignty,and the resulting turmoil it causes the nation.If we could remove abortion from the national spotlight then steps could be made to correct the myriad of similar constitutional problems we face.

[NewXD40fun]

+1,000


Now you know why the Democrats use the courts.....their liberal agendas usually fail at the State level.


Tom

[FrankRizzoXD40]

Originally Posted by NMCB3

Each state should decide the issue itself. Roe v. Wade subverts that system, as would proposed legislation to federally ban abortions. Removing the abortion issue from the federal courts and placing it in the rightful hands of the state legislatures, where the will of the people expresses itself, and where the founders intended such matters to be dealt with, ultimately protects everyones liberty's including those of the unborn. It would also remove the issue,and subsequently a massive wedge from national politics, thus focusing voters attention on other equally important issues.
Abortion is merely one example of federal government usurpation of state sovereignty,and the resulting turmoil it causes the nation.If we could remove abortion from the national spotlight then steps could be made to correct the myriad of similar constitutional problems we face.

+1,000,000

I am a huge proponent of letting the states decide these matters. I think that it was what the founders intended.

States should decide for themselves regarding both abortion and gay marriage. As far as gay marriage goes, the states have been passing various laws either approving or banning it. They are only allowed to do that because there is no supreme court decision, like Roe v. Wade, that supercedes their right to regulate it for themselves. We should be glad that we have conservative justices on the supreme court, or else we could be in danger of having a version of Roe v. Wade for gay marriage!

The states should be left to decide these matters. This way, the individual citizens have more representation and more of a say in what happens. Areas of the country that differe geographically tend to have very different views when it comes to politics. By letting the states decide these issues, it prevents New York, CA and DC politics from deciding what is best for rural Americans and other areas of the country (kind of look Cook County deciding what happens in rural IL regarding gun control).

Frank

[NMCB3]

Originally Posted by FrankRizzoXD40

+1,000,000

I am a huge proponent of letting the states decide these matters. I think that it was what the founders intended.

States should decide for themselves regarding both abortion and gay marriage. As far as gay marriage goes, the states have been passing various laws either approving or banning it. They are only allowed to do that because there is no supreme court decision, like Roe v. Wade, that supercedes their right to regulate it for themselves. We should be glad that we have conservative justices on the supreme court, or else we could be in danger of having a version of Roe v. Wade for gay marriage!

The states should be left to decide these matters. This way, the individual citizens have more representation and more of a say in what happens. Areas of the country that differe geographically tend to have very different views when it comes to politics. By letting the states decide these issues, it prevents New York, CA and DC politics from deciding what is best for rural Americans and other areas of the country (kind of look Cook County deciding what happens in rural IL regarding gun control).

Frank

Those founders sure were smart.

[DanTheEldest]

Originally Posted by NMCB3

Regardless of where you sit on the abortion debate brickboy hit the nail on the head when he described it as wedge issue. Both party's know it, and they skillfully exploit it for votes. One problem with the abortion controversy as now defined, is the infamous Roe v. Wade. The problem with that ruling is not that it "legalized abortion" for it did not, it simply usurped authority from the state legislatures. At the time several states already allowed abortion. NY and CA were two such states,others prohibited it.
Under the ninth and tenth amendments any powers not delegated to the federal government are reserved to the states. That is the genius of our "Federal" system,the separation of powers. The Constitution is silent on the issue, therefore the topic of abortion is a state matter. Each state should decide the issue itself. Roe v. Wade subverts that system, as would proposed legislation to federally ban abortions. Removing the abortion issue from the federal courts and placing it in the rightful hands of the state legislatures, where the will of the people expresses itself, and where the founders intended such matters to be dealt with, ultimately protects everyones liberty's including those of the unborn. It would also remove the issue,and subsequently a massive wedge from national politics, thus focusing voters attention on other equally important issues.
Abortion is merely one example of federal government usurpation of state sovereignty,and the resulting turmoil it causes the nation.If we could remove abortion from the national spotlight then steps could be made to correct the myriad of similar constitutional problems we face.

Also agreed. Roe v. Wade is just fundamentally bad law.

[FrankRizzoXD40]

Originally Posted by DanTheEldest

Also agreed. Roe v. Wade is just fundamentally bad law.

It's pretty bad--especially when the 9th and 10th amendments reserve powers that are not assigned to the federal government for the states.

Another example of the liberals using the courts to get what they want. Roe v. Wade was their greatest triumph. It is also one of their biggest fears that it will one day be overturned, returning the power to regulate it to the states, as the founders seem to have intended. This is why you saw the huge uproar over Bush's supreme court nominees. The character assasins were all out in force during those hearings.

The liberals know that if they allowed the states to decide, abortion would no longer be such a wedge issue that they could use to rally the troops during national elections!

Frank

[Mercmar]

To quote my teacher brother, "Think you're against Roe v. Wade? Come visit me in the 7th grade!"

[FrankRizzoXD40]

Originally Posted by bd

Would you be in favor of testing pesticides on unborn children?

Just answer one direct question in your life instead of cowardly waffling out of it.

Be a man.

Answer this question.

Would you be in favor of testing pesticides on unborn children?

Don't be scared. Answer it.

bd

And you've always agreed to answer questions and you have NEVER "waffled" out of them?

Frank