Delay resigns

[one-eyed-fatman]

Tom Delay’s only option was to obey the Republican’s ethics rules.

Ya I remember when Ronnie got Tom on charges. What did good ol Tom do? He changed the ethics rules to suit himself. He had it all set up so he could continue to keep his job even if he was in prison. Of course he was forced to change them back.

[NewXD40fun]

Nope, Delay didn’t “change” the rules when movie star Ronnie leveled those false Conspiracy charges that were thrown out of court.

How come movie star Ronnie Earl wasn't prosecuted for liberalism when he made those false criminal charges?




Tom

[one-eyed-fatman]

An indicted majority leader must resign his leadership post under House rules. Last November, Republicans changed the rules to allow DeLay to hold onto his leadership job if indicted, but a spate of critical newspaper editorials forced them to back down and return to the original rules two months later.

[NewXD40fun]

Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

An indicted majority leader must resign his leadership post under House rules. Last November, Republicans changed the rules to allow DeLay to hold onto his leadership job if indicted, but a spate of critical newspaper editorials forced them to back down and return to the original rules two months later.

You have been bashing Tom Delay for two years now, so I will defer to your experience....for the most part.




Tom

[one-eyed-fatman]

I've been after him a lot longer than that. When he started that children's charity, collected somewhere in the neighborhood of a million dollars for that charity and then none of that money went to that charity that burned my ass. Somebody went out with a dozer and graded 10 foot of driveway for that project (probably for free) and that's all that happened with his children's charity. Where did that money really go? His and his buddies pockets that's where. Of course your not from around here so you probably didn't hear anything about it.

[NewXD40fun]

Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

I've been after him a lot longer than that. When he started that children's charity, collected somewhere in the neighborhood of a million dollars for that charity and then none of that money went to that charity that burned my ass. Somebody went out with a dozer and graded 10 foot of driveway for that project (probably for free) and that's all that happened with his children's charity. Where did that money really go? His and his buddies pockets that's where. Of course your not from around here so you probably didn't hear anything about it.

Maybe its because you throw out wild accusations without one shred of proof that makes it is easy to not believe most of what you write concerning politicians.

What makes you think that anyone would believe the unsubstantiated accusations you just wrote? It sounds to me or anyone that you are just tossing around accusations, maybe parotting Delay's political enemies. I don't recall Tom Delay being convicted of the crimes you claim he committed.

It makes me wonder about your veracity.



Tom

[one-eyed-fatman]

Originally Posted by NewXD40fun

Maybe its because you throw out wild accusations without one shred of proof that makes it is easy to not believe most of what you write concerning politicians.

What makes you think that anyone would believe the unsubstantiated accusations you just wrote? It sounds to me or anyone that you are just tossing around accusations, maybe parotting Delay's political enemies. I don't recall Tom Delay being convicted of the crimes you claim he committed.

It makes me wonder about your veracity.



Tom

Maybe its because you throw out wild accusations without one shred of proof

Well now that I probably do as others here have done as well. But then again none of us are lawyers. If we had proof who in the hell would listen to us anyway.

What makes you think that anyone would believe the unsubstantiated accusations you just wrote?

They are not unsubstantiated. They were reported by the media. How do you think I found out about this stuff. How do you find out about stuff, the media.

I'm not the best at using key words to find what I want on the net but I'll see if I can find a media story on the net about the Delay charity.

Oh by the way I have been shanghaied into helping with a fund raiser in district 22 on Tuesday. I'm helping an (R) dude out (free food). You wanna know what's going on in a neighborhood ya gotta be from around that neighborhood.

[NewXD40fun]

Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

Well now that I probably do as others here have done as well. But then again none of us are lawyers. If we had proof who in the hell would listen to us anyway.

They are not unsubstantiated. They were reported by the media. How do you think I found out about this stuff. How do you find out about stuff, the media.

I'm not the best at using key words to find what I want on the net but I'll see if I can find a media story on the net about the Delay charity.

Oh by the way I have been shanghaied into helping with a fund raiser in district 22 on Tuesday. I'm helping an (R) dude out (free food). You wanna know what's going on in a neighborhood ya gotta be from around that neighborhood.

Look for convictions and jail time or fines or ........facts of law-breaking for a change. Not accusations by his political enemies.

Just because you want something to be true does not make it true.

I thought you said, many times, that all politicians were corrupt bastards, and now you are going to help a politician? This has got to be a first right? Or is free food just too hard to ignore.


Tom

[one-eyed-fatman]

Well here's his website for the charity. Looks kind of fishy. It was started 1986 and many of the pages say coming soon. Coming soon, coming soon. Want to know who the leadership team is? Coming soon. It's all a big fake. Take a look for yourself. Image gallery has been coming soon since 1986 too. And the one thing I don't see that's really fishy, a nice big fluffy picture of Tom Delay. No pictures of anything. No email, phone number or anything else that might make a ligit site.

http://www.delayfoundation.org/about/

[one-eyed-fatman]

Here's some more down home news.

Sweet Charity
For years Tom DeLay has used nonprofits to help himself. Now the heat is on.
By Sarah Fenske

Published: Thursday, June 10, 2004
Daniel Kramer
Press releases promise an idyllic foster-care campus…
Courtesy of the Oaks at Rio Bend
…but the site today doesn't quite match up.

Boyle: DeLay is "using the guise of a charity to host a political fund-raiser."

On that day last September, Congressman Tom DeLay and his wife, Christine, showed they can still mount the perfect photo op. She wore blue; he (and her fingernails) wore red. And they both flashed the smiles of political veterans.

The occasion was a big one. After a few years of talking, planning and $6 million of fund-raising, the couple was breaking ground for the Oaks at Rio Bend, a residential campus for foster kids and their families. The DeLays had come up with the idea. The DeLay Foundation, their nonprofit arm, had raised most of the seed money, and the George Foundation had donated a 30-acre site in Richmond.

Since then, the property has officially been "under construction," as the Sugar Land congressman himself boasted in an editorial in the Houston Chronicle on April 21.

And so it's jarring to drive out to see the place, eight months after the ground was ceremonially broken and construction supposedly started. You know you've arrived only because of the big sign facing Pultar Road: It announces the future home of the Oaks at Rio Bend, then offers a rendering of the Promised Land. Little villas with dormer windows sit under a vivid blue sky; people walk into a chapel; flowers bloom.

Beyond the sign is nothing.

Not a villa, not a chapel, not a sewer pipe. Not even a clearing.

The weedy grasses have grown waist-high. The barbed wire that lines the property is rusty and mashed down in places. Someone has fired six BB-sized holes into the back of the sign; an empty Busch tall boy patrols the perimeter.

The first bulldozer -- a pint-sized rental -- has just arrived. By the time DeLay published his op-ed, it had cleared a muddy path that stopped abruptly after 12 feet. The rest of the site remained untouched.

Margaret Gow, the project's administrative director, started her job April 19. She now predicts that construction won't be complete until January 2005. "As typical with construction, we're running behind," she says. Lutheran Social Services of the South will manage the facility when work is complete. Its president, Sam Sipes, says that campus residents should be all moved in by spring 2005. He blames the delay on "drainage" issues.

But that practical explanation pales next to the symbolism of the fallow field. Things have gotten complicated for Tom DeLay in the last seven months, things that go far beyond construction schedules or drainage.

Long praised for his philanthropic pursuits, DeLay suddenly has been hit by an avalanche of opposition. Critics have charged that the House majority leader has used his nonprofit work for political gain. His newest charity, they argue, is no more than a clever attempt to avoid campaign finance reform.

When the DeLays hoisted their shovels of dirt last September, charity work must have seemed like a way to burnish their image, a chance to give back and earn positive publicity at the same time. That's how it had always worked.

Lately, it hasn't been so easy.



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Whether positive or negative, newspaper profiles of DeLay almost always offer two facts about his charitable efforts: The congressman and his wife have been committed to foster-care causes for nearly 20 years, and they've taken in foster daughters of their own.

DeLay's foster kids may have been the beneficiaries of a certain absence of warmth toward his own family. As The Washington Post has reported, DeLay's late father was an alcoholic, and the congressman has long been estranged from his two brothers, sister and mother.

One brother, an ex-convict, could not be reached for comment. Another, a Houston-based lobbyist, wouldn't return phone messages. As for 80-year-old Maxine DeLay, she lives in Richmond, not far from her famous son. But she told the Post the closest contact she has with him is by watching C-SPAN. (Sweet-voiced, with a fluff of white hair, Maxine DeLay answered her door to a reporter only to decline comment politely, saying she does not give interviews.)

It is a testament to the animosity DeLay generates in some quarters that even his foster children have been the source of nasty gossip: Democrats in Fort Bend County still hiss that one foster daughter was actually the congressman's own bastard progeny, a product of DeLay's fabled "Hot Tub Tom" days in the Texas legislature.

http://www.houston-press.com/issues/...0/feature.html