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Old 01-05-2006, 11:26 AM   #11
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Ahh yes...truthout...a great, unbiased news source. The Fox News of the left.

Not a peep from truthout about the Dems that are not giving back the money they got from this crook. Hmmm.

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How about some information on this from a source you deem trustworthy......????

For a change.

Apparently you get all your political knowlege from this forum. You have never referenced a media source you claim to be fair and balanced, in your opinion, of course.

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Old 01-05-2006, 01:13 PM   #12
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To set the record straight, the Los Angeles Times published the list of legislators that have returned or donated Abramoff donations to charity. The list includes both Democrats and Republicans; however, the Republicans substantially outnumber the Democrats. This is to be expected because Abramoff was a Republican operative and lobbyist, and the Democrats were out of power during the period he was operating in Washington.

From the Los Angeles Times
Returning or Donating Contributions
Los Angeles Times, Associated Press

January 5, 2006

President Bush and many lawmakers have announced that they are refunding or giving to charity some or all of the donations they or their political action committees received from once-powerful lobbyist Jack Abramoff, his associates or clients. President Bush, $6,000 from Abramoff, his wife and the Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe of Michigan for the Bush-Cheney 2004 reelection campaign is being donated to the American Heart Assn. Abramoff raised at least $100,000 for the campaign.

House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.). A spokesman would not say how much money Hastert received or planned to donate.

House Majority Leader Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), $8,500 to charity.

Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas), $15,000 to charities in suburban Houston.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), $2,000 will be returned to the Saginaw Chippewa Tribe.

Senate Minority Whip Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), $11,000 to the American Indian Center of Chicago and the American Indian Health Service of Chicago.

Senate Republicans:

Christopher S. Bond of Missouri, $12,500 to the Salvation Army.

Thad Cochran of Mississippi, $8,000 to Mississippi Hurricane Recovery Fund.

Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina, $1,000 to charity.

Michael B. Enzi of Wyoming, $1,000 to charity.

Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, $12,000 to Marguerite's Place.

Jon Kyl of Arizona, refunding $4,000 to three Indian tribes.

Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, $2,000 to charity.

Gordon H. Smith of Oregon, $8,500 to be refunded or donated to charity.

John E. Sununu of New Hampshire, $3,000 to charity.

Craig Thomas of Wyoming, $8,000 to victims of the 2005 tornado in Wright, Wyo.

John Thune of South Dakota, $2,000 to White Buffalo Calf Woman Society.

Senate Democrats:

Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, $2,000 to charity.

Tim Johnson of South Dakota, $8,250 to Billy Mills — Running Strong for American Indian Youth.

Barbara A. Mikulski of Maryland, $5,000 to the American Indian College Fund.

House Republicans:

Eric Cantor of Virginia, about $10,000 to the William Byrd Community House.

Barbara Cubin of Wyoming, $250 to charity.

Kay Granger of Texas, $2,000 to Boys and Girls Clubs of Greater Fort Worth.

Melissa A. Hart of Pennsylvania, $2,000 to two women's shelters.

J.D. Hayworth of Arizona, $2,250 to the Salvation Army Katrina Disaster Fund.

Walter B. Jones of North Carolina, $1,000 to charity.

Donald Manzullo of Illinois, $1,500 to be returned to the Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians.

Marilyn N. Musgrave of Colorado, $1,000 to Crossroads Safehouse.

Bob Ney of Ohio, $9,000 to charity.

Charles W. "Chip" Pickering of Mississippi, at least $2,500 to the Mississippi Hurricane Recovery Fund.

Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, $949 to Operation Phone Home.

Bill Shuster of Pennsylvania, $1,000 to charity.

John E. Sweeney of New York, $2,000 to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.

Curt Weldon of Pennsylvania, 2,000 to charity.

Jerry Weller of Illinois, at least $500 to charity.

Roger Wicker of Mississippi, $250 to Mississippi Hurricane Recovery Fund.

Heather A. Wilson of New Mexico, $1,000 to the Great Southwest Council of the Boy Scouts of America.

House Democrats:

Henry Cuellar of Texas, $500 to be returned to the Tigua Tribe of El Paso.

Eliot L. Engel of New York, $1,000 to be returned to the Saginaw Chippewa Tribe.

Lane Evans of Illinois, $2,000 to Community Caring Conference.

Tim Holden of Pennsylvania, $1,000 to an animal shelter.

Nita M. Lowey of New York, $2,000 to be refunded.

Earl Pomeroy of North Dakota, $6,950 to be refunded.

December 2005:

Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), $18,892 to seven tribal colleges.

Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.), $42,000 to charity.

Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.), about $150,000 donated to Native American charities and refunded.

Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), $3,750 to North Dakota's tribal colleges.

Sen. Byron L. Dorgan (D-N.D.), $67,000 refunded.

Rep. Ernest Istook (R-Okla.), $6,000 to the Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation.

Rep. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.), $19,900 given to charity.
If you rob a bank and get home and get scared and all of a sudden get religion and see the error of your ways......

....Can you take the money back and all is forgiven?

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Thursday 05 January 2006

"It is not our job to seek peaceful coexistence with the Left. Our job is to remove them from power permanently."

- Jack A. Abramoff


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If someone goes after a Repblican it must be because they are guilty.

If somene might go after a Democrat we should post negative quotes from them because it must be a conspiracy.

I would like to add that nobody on the list in your post (Democrat or Republican) has been found guilty of anything related to this man.

I find it humorous that Democrats and Republicans now feel it in their hearts to donate their share.
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To set the record straight, the Los Angeles Times published the list of legislators that have returned or donated Abramoff donations to charity. The list includes both Democrats and Republicans; however, the Republicans substantially outnumber the Democrats. This is to be expected because Abramoff was a Republican operative and lobbyist, and the Democrats were out of power during the period he was operating in Washington.

From the Los Angeles Times
Returning or Donating Contributions
Los Angeles Times, Associated Press

January 5, 2006

President Bush and many lawmakers have announced that they are refunding or giving to charity some or all of the donations they or their political action committees received from once-powerful lobbyist Jack Abramoff, his associates or clients. President Bush, $6,000 from Abramoff, his wife and the Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe of Michigan for the Bush-Cheney 2004 reelection campaign is being donated to the American Heart Assn. Abramoff raised at least $100,000 for the campaign.

House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.). A spokesman would not say how much money Hastert received or planned to donate.

House Majority Leader Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), $8,500 to charity.

Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas), $15,000 to charities in suburban Houston.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), $2,000 will be returned to the Saginaw Chippewa Tribe.

Senate Minority Whip Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), $11,000 to the American Indian Center of Chicago and the American Indian Health Service of Chicago.

Senate Republicans:

Christopher S. Bond of Missouri, $12,500 to the Salvation Army.

Thad Cochran of Mississippi, $8,000 to Mississippi Hurricane Recovery Fund.

Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina, $1,000 to charity.

Michael B. Enzi of Wyoming, $1,000 to charity.

Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, $12,000 to Marguerite's Place.

Jon Kyl of Arizona, refunding $4,000 to three Indian tribes.

Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, $2,000 to charity.

Gordon H. Smith of Oregon, $8,500 to be refunded or donated to charity.

John E. Sununu of New Hampshire, $3,000 to charity.

Craig Thomas of Wyoming, $8,000 to victims of the 2005 tornado in Wright, Wyo.

John Thune of South Dakota, $2,000 to White Buffalo Calf Woman Society.

Senate Democrats:

Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, $2,000 to charity.

Tim Johnson of South Dakota, $8,250 to Billy Mills — Running Strong for American Indian Youth.

Barbara A. Mikulski of Maryland, $5,000 to the American Indian College Fund.

House Republicans:

Eric Cantor of Virginia, about $10,000 to the William Byrd Community House.

Barbara Cubin of Wyoming, $250 to charity.

Kay Granger of Texas, $2,000 to Boys and Girls Clubs of Greater Fort Worth.

Melissa A. Hart of Pennsylvania, $2,000 to two women's shelters.

J.D. Hayworth of Arizona, $2,250 to the Salvation Army Katrina Disaster Fund.

Walter B. Jones of North Carolina, $1,000 to charity.

Donald Manzullo of Illinois, $1,500 to be returned to the Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians.

Marilyn N. Musgrave of Colorado, $1,000 to Crossroads Safehouse.

Bob Ney of Ohio, $9,000 to charity.

Charles W. "Chip" Pickering of Mississippi, at least $2,500 to the Mississippi Hurricane Recovery Fund.

Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, $949 to Operation Phone Home.

Bill Shuster of Pennsylvania, $1,000 to charity.

John E. Sweeney of New York, $2,000 to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.

Curt Weldon of Pennsylvania, 2,000 to charity.

Jerry Weller of Illinois, at least $500 to charity.

Roger Wicker of Mississippi, $250 to Mississippi Hurricane Recovery Fund.

Heather A. Wilson of New Mexico, $1,000 to the Great Southwest Council of the Boy Scouts of America.

House Democrats:

Henry Cuellar of Texas, $500 to be returned to the Tigua Tribe of El Paso.

Eliot L. Engel of New York, $1,000 to be returned to the Saginaw Chippewa Tribe.

Lane Evans of Illinois, $2,000 to Community Caring Conference.

Tim Holden of Pennsylvania, $1,000 to an animal shelter.

Nita M. Lowey of New York, $2,000 to be refunded.

Earl Pomeroy of North Dakota, $6,950 to be refunded.

December 2005:

Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), $18,892 to seven tribal colleges.

Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.), $42,000 to charity.

Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.), about $150,000 donated to Native American charities and refunded.

Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), $3,750 to North Dakota's tribal colleges.

Sen. Byron L. Dorgan (D-N.D.), $67,000 refunded.

Rep. Ernest Istook (R-Okla.), $6,000 to the Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation.

Rep. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.), $19,900 given to charity.
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....Can you take the money back and all is forgiven?

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No, but your PUBLIC donation to the American Heart Association would be greatly appreciated.
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