House passes "volunteer" bill.

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by ScottyT

In its current incarnation I don't believe that anything is mandatory. Obama of course does want it to be mandatory (at least for students), as he stated in more than one campaign speech -- of course he hasn't really followed through on many campaign promises, so hopefully he won't on this one either.

Originally Posted by psc

Committee on Education and Labor

Yup...Could someone please show me where it's mandatory?

Originally Posted by LUVMYSIGP225

I see nothing but the words "encourage", "incentive", "volunteer", "engage".

Basically, for those who volunteer, they want to throw you a little cash for college.

Dig up the original wording and prososal as presented by Obama while campaigning ... The idea is in his mind, and this will probably porph ito somethig that will NOT be good because of it.

[Brair]

Originally Posted by ScottyT

In its current incarnation I don't believe that anything is mandatory. Obama of course does want it to be mandatory (at least for students), as he stated in more than one campaign speech -- of course he hasn't really followed through on many campaign promises, so hopefully he won't on this one either.

it was there.

Michelle Malkin GIVE/SERVE Act updates; Senate version passes, 79-19

The part that was a problem

From the Misc. section, #6104: (6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds

However they are backdooring it in HR 1444 now.

GovTrack: H.R. 1444: Text of Legislation, Introduced in House

check this out..

SEC. 4. DUTIES.

(a) General Purpose- The purpose of the Commission is to gather and analyze information in order to make recommendations to Congress to--

(1) improve the ability of individuals in the United States to serve others and, by doing so, to enhance our Nation and the global community;


(2) train leaders in public service organizations to better utilize individuals committed to national service and volunteerism as they manage human and fiscal resources;


(3) identify and offer solutions to the barriers that make it difficult for some individuals in the United States to volunteer or perform national service; and


(4) build on the foundation of service and volunteer opportunities that are currently available.



(b) Specific Topics- In carrying out its general purpose under subsection (a), the Commission shall address and analyze the following specific topics:

(1) The level of understanding about the current Federal, State, and local volunteer programs and opportunities for service among individuals in the United States.


(2) The issues that deter volunteerism and national service, particularly among young people, and how the identified issues can be overcome.


(3) Whether there is an appropriate role for Federal, State, and local governments in overcoming the issues that deter volunteerism and national service and, if appropriate, how to expand the relationships and partnerships between different levels of government in promoting volunteerism and national service.


(4) Whether existing databases are effective in matching community needs to would-be volunteers and service providers.


(5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.


(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

this is interesting to note about the give act.

GovTrack: H.R. 1388: Text of Legislation, Engrossed Amendment Senate

They are talking about uniforms now. ...

[ScottyT]

Originally Posted by Brair

They are talking about uniforms now. ...

Of course they are. They haven't spent enough of my money yet...

[psc]

Got it...so they are establishing a committee to review the potential. Kind like of several committee's who reviewed bringing back the draft.

What uniforms? I want to see...

Did the 1960's era (Kennedy Youth Army) get an Educational stipend?

[ScottyT]

How do you feel about this bill psc?

[BoomerBSG]

people people.. just go back to sleep.. nothing to see here, your safe.

[PowerFangsXD45]

Originally Posted by BoomerBSG

people people.. just go back to sleep.. nothing to see here, your safe.

You forgot move along move along.....

[yeahYeah]

America's youth is overwealmingly fat and lazy. i wonder if they will have brownshirts in 'plus' sizes?

[psc]

1. If...let me say it again if, it's a program which places young adults into a legitimate effort volunteering their work/time for a $5K educational stipend...then I don't see how this is a negative thing. I see this as the same as my VA home loan or my Montgomery VA Bill which I used both.

2. I want to see where this bill 'clearly' states it is Mandatory. I don't believe it does or ever will.

3. I know plenty on the left and right that have no problem with mandatory gov't time for young adults. Back in the day, they called it a draft.

Personally, I would only have a problem with it if it were Mandatory.

[ScottyT]

And the fact that congress has no constitutional authority to implement programs like this -- and loot taxpayers to fund them -- doesn't factor in?