DEMOCRAT GUN BAN News in San Francisco

[NewXD40fun]

Man, you would think we would all agree that 98% of Democrats in Federal, State, County and City governments would cave in to the gun-control Lobbyists and legislate away our rights. To me this is the reality.

Democrats appear to only vote FOR gun owner friendly legislation during election time.

I think this is reason enough to vote against 98% of all the Democrats when they run for office.



Tom

[Delija]

Originally Posted by NewXD40fun

Man, you would think we would all agree that 98% of Democrats in Federal, State, County and City governments would cave in to the gun-control Lobbyists and legislate away our rights. To me this is the reality.

That's the problem with 98% of your posts. They are based on your own reality.

Maybe there's some progress here since you almost seem to be admitting as much.

I wonder if you have any statistics on what percentage of registered Republicans are gun owners and what percentage of registered Democrats are gun owners.

As I have said before, I don't bother with the political type forums. However I know the names of some. And I have a close friend that is a regular on the "Democratic Underground" which is a pretty "left wing" web site (I hear...I still haven't bothered to visit....I don't have any interest).

He tells me that a large majority of it's members are pro gun, and a very significant percentage of its members own handguns. I know he has a beautiful hard chromed Hi-Power that is the most accurate 9mm pistol I have ever shot. His collection is modest but all keepers. A beautiful nickle Walther PPK/S, A Smith and Wesson .357 Mag, a Beretta 9mm FS (?)and a Ruger .44. He had a nice collection at one point but lost it in a burglary of his NYC apartment. His dad was a NYC cop (killed in the line of duty). I don't know what his dad's politics were. I do know what his are. He is one of your true (and to my knowledge quite rare) "liberal extremists".....pretty much the only one I can think of. Yet not a "Bush Hater".. Just a Bush critic. But to you that would probably qualify as a a "Hater", just as any number qualifies as 98% if it sounds good to you.

It would really go a long way toward establishing some credibility for yourself if you stopped just guessing and making up numbers.

I'm still reeling from your claim that corporate profits pay off to investors with stock dividends. Then you followed that with "common stock never pays dividends". Then you followed that with something else. I think it was four versions of how stocks do/don't pay dividends. Truthfully it didn't sink in because it was all wrong. Which came as no surprise.

Really Tom...I read your posts and it's like a game. How many times can you get the words "liberal" "extremists" and "hate/hater" into each and every post? Reminds me of when my son was 4. He never seemed to tire of repetition. He watched his "ET" video until it literally fell apart.

Why not actually use facts instead of guesses?

Peace,
D.

[NewXD40fun]

The VPI and Democrats vs Gun Owners

Supreme Court Nominee Samuel Alito’s Views Could Imperil Most Federal Gun, Ammo, and Explosives Laws, New VPC Backgrounder Shows

http://www.vpc.org/index.htm

The Democrat/Liberals attack through, the Violence Policy Institute, on Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito proves again that the Democrats attacking President Bush want to remove our right to own firearms.

I just can’t understand why members of this gun forum are supporting the Democrats and liberal extremists who are attacking President Bush. President Bush and the Republican majority Congress continue to preserve our second amendment rights in spite of the liberal extremists.

We need Alito on the Supreme Court to help preserve our second amendment rights. I suspect the San Francisco Democrat gun ban law may reach the US Supreme Court this year.



Tom

[einheit 13]

I got one question. Since the people of SF voted for it, why bother to change it?? Let them "suffer" by thier own ballots. And since we're on it, how come the right hasn't repealed the ban from DC??

[Delija]

Originally Posted by einheit 13

I got one question. Since the people of SF voted for it, why bother to change it?? Let them "suffer" by thier own ballots. And since we're on it, how come the right hasn't repealed the ban from DC??

Must be because of the liberal extremists who are running this country behind our backs. The shadow government of Bush haters who eat live human babies every Thursday for lunch and drink amniotic fluid and Russian vodka to wash them down. The same hell sent monsters who shoot up stem cells with their heroine and who blew up the WTC and had earlier bombed Pearl Harbor after abducting FDR from his swimming pool and giving him a brain transplant. It wasn't really polio, it was the anti-rejection drugs side effects. Word is they used Karl Marx's preserved brain. That's how we got Social Security, unions and of course the WPA and other commie works projects.

Thankfully Joe McCarthy came along just in time to save the handful of surviving true Americans who to this day fight the good fight!

WHOA!

LOL

Pax,
D.

[bd]

Originally Posted by einheit 13

I got one question. Since the people of SF voted for it, why bother to change it?? Let them "suffer" by thier own ballots. And since we're on it, how come the right hasn't repealed the ban from DC??

Damned good questions....

As I have said I don't like the way this turned out for the people of San Fran.

But no one is making anyone who doesn't agree with this live there. It was passed by a majority vote. And if gun hating people want to go live in San Fran because of this vote then that's their choice too. I hope they do. It will concentrate more of them in one area.

It's hard for some people to understand "majority rules" when it doesn't go their way.

And since we're on it, how come the right hasn't repealed the ban from DC?

The party in power now is no more of a friend to gun-owners than the party that is not in power.

They just provide lip service to get suckers to vote for them.

bd

[jpmullis]

Rosa Parks. And thanks to her we have an example that not all the laws are correct. If you are willing to risk the possible consequences for your actions when defying a law, do so. At least here in Georgia, a jury is the arbiter of not only guilt, but also the law.

[NewXD40fun]

Originally Posted by einheit 13

I got one question. Since the people of SF voted for it, why bother to change it?? Let them "suffer" by thier own ballots. And since we're on it, how come the right hasn't repealed the ban from DC??

Fortunately we do not live in a pure democracy, so when the Democrats get a law passed that violates our constitutional rights then conservative groups, or any group or person, has a right to challenge that law in the courts. The minority always have rights in this country, just like our founding fathers intended.

The minority who voted against the gun ban can still win in the end.

Of course if the Democrats win the lawsuit against the conservative, gun-rights organizations then they will have the law of precedent on their side when they come to your city.


Tom

[Delija]

Originally Posted by bd

The party in power now is no more of a friend to gun-owners than the party that is not in power.

They just provide lip service to get suckers to vote for them.

bd

Yeah, I don't get how W. can say he'd sign the AWB if it got to his desk and still be revered by the opponents of such a bill.

Gotta hand it to him. He really put together a hell of a team. They manage to play both sides against the middle and never be perceived as "fence sitters".

How do they do that? And with such consistency. It really is awe inspiring.

Peace,
D.

[Delija]

Originally Posted by NewXD40fun

Of course if the Democrats win the lawsuit against the conservative, gun-rights organizations then they will have the law of precedent on their side when they come to your city.


Tom

What makes you believe anyone is "coming to your city"? What interest in local politics (guns or anything) do you believe your enemies have in conquering Ohio (or your town, county, village, whatever)?

Why are you so fearful?

Really, you make life sound like the board game "RISK". Real life isn't like that. Caesar isn't plundering your local royalty's treasury as his armies rampage through the Midwest.

Power in Washington isn't gained by pillaging and plundering the countryside and raping the provincial virgins. It seems to me it's gained more by granting government contracts and selling and buying influence.

Seems like if there's money in the personal firearms business it's best served by loosening any restrictions, not by tightening things up. So what's the upside for gun grabbers to leave home?

Maybe you just like to worry?

Peace,
D.