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Old 02-26-2009, 12:23 PM   #191
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I'm guessing he wants this accomplished in his first 100 days too. If he had his way he'd eliminate all freedom and crush the economy in his first 100 days and then he can swoop in like the autocratic savior to save the economy, save us from ourselves, and restore us unto the path of Obama worship...
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:27 PM   #192
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When I first started mentioning the reinstatement of the AWB as an inevitability around here, you all called me crazy and said it wouldn't happen, despite all the evidence to the contrary..... so, what's up now yo?!

OK, now that I got that out: They are obviously gonna try to do it under the guise of helping Mexico. Bad play on their part, as people care more about the crime here then in Mexico. Since it has already been proven that the first AWB didn't lower crime here (in fact, it went up according to a recent FBI study), they will try Mexico I guess.

Why should I give a flying fish about the crime in Mexico, as long as it stays there? You don't see them worrying about the drug crime here, or the crimes their illegal gangbangers commit here? Just because their police forces are corrupt and inept doesn't mean we should step in.

I don't know who started the "they are getting their weapons from America" crap, but it will not stand up to unbiased scrutiny. If I wanted to buy an illegal weapon in the US, I would have no idea where to start, and probably end up getting caught. If I went to, say, Brazil, I could have a truckload ready to go in an hour no questions asked, and for a lot less money. The international illegal arms trade rarely runs through the US and never uses US weapon sources. Try Albania, the Middle East or Africa.

I think we should militarize the border and have a zero tolerance policy. Cross that line = get shot. No more illegals. This would also provide a solution to the democrats fabricated problem. It may also stop the drugs getting in, just a thought.

And for the illegals that still make it through, we should have an armed civilian population waiting..... not an impotent public holding knives up to the folks who would wish us harm with their "assault weapons and grenades"

Using Mexico crime to try a new AWB = FAIL.
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:36 PM   #193
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The crime problem in Mexico is real. The gangs are about to overpower the police. Mexican drug gangs are buying high-powered weapons in the United States and they're selling their drugs here too.
But isn't it convenient that in our frenzied spending with HR 1 there wasn't anything to help Mexico. If our government really cared don't you think we could've forgone the millions to the National Endowment to the Arts or many of the other Billions of dollars in earmarks and put it toward much needed Law Enforcement action in Mexico?

We pretend to care about Mexico, and perhaps some Presidents even do care, but President 0Bama is just using the cover of lawlessness in Mexico as a publicly acceptable excuse to disarm a civilian populace.
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:39 PM   #194
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When I first started mentioning the reinstatement of the AWB as an inevitability around here, you all called me crazy and said it wouldn't happen, despite all the evidence to the contrary..... so, what's up now yo?!
I hope I wasn't one of the ones that said that he wouldn't try because if I was then I was being either naive, overly optimistic, or foolish.
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:56 PM   #195
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No offense, but what the hell? That's the kind of defeatist, oh well let 'em impose it attitude that let them impose the last one.
My point there wasn't to be defeatist... fight with everything you got against the ban. But there are people talking like this will be the end of gun owners - it wasn't in the past and most likely won't be this time. UNLESS there are some major revisions and not just a "reinstatement" of the ban.
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Just adding to the sarcasm et al
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I'm not sure "working with Mexico" on the issue is going to help that much. Their government is fairly corrupt too, and that's one reason why the Cartels got as much power as they have.
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But isn't it convenient that in our frenzied spending with HR 1 there wasn't anything to help Mexico. If our government really cared don't you think we could've forgone the millions to the National Endowment to the Arts or many of the other Billions of dollars in earmarks and put it toward much needed Law Enforcement action in Mexico?

We pretend to care about Mexico, and perhaps some Presidents even do care, but President 0Bama is just using the cover of lawlessness in Mexico as a publicly acceptable excuse to disarm a civilian populace.
Ah, but we can give how much to rebuild Gaza as our backyard becomes littered and overrun with weeds
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I'm not sure "working with Mexico" on the issue is going to help that much. Their government is fairly corrupt too, and that's one reason why the Cartels got as much power as they have.
That is exactly why we should just set up the troops, and give them simple orders.
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You know, I don't see what is so hard about patrolling our border and inforcing it. The 11ACR did exactly that in Germany for 40 years. We have better tecknology than we did then, so it would seem that it would be easier.

As far as manpower, we might have to use more than one regiment, but certainly no more than two, which is only 16,000 soldiers. It'll also infuse some needed stimulous in the border communities with the stationing of those troops near towns.
 
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