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msidner · 11-26-2004, 09:29 PM

Ok, first of all the shipping time was excellent, and having now spent a few shells down the range I have to say the investment was WELL worth it on Don's guide rod and the 22# spring. I'll be getting a 24# here shortly though, cause now that I've reduced the recoil quite a bit, I'd like to see just how much more I can bleed out of it. Only issue I have is with the Pachmyer grips. Put them on, trimmed to allow for the grip safety, but its like the XD's grip is too small for them, so the pachmyer wants to twist in the hand when firing, thus causing a rather serious lack of confidence in control in the weapon. Any advice on what I can do to tighten the slack out of them? The grips I don't feel are at fault, they're doing their job, I just don't think they're a solid match. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!
Matthew

**Old School** · 11-26-2004, 09:41 PM

Matt,

The pac grip should fit the XD grip very snuggly. That said, because there is no adhesive holding it in place, it could twist if intended. That said, I have not heard of this issue before. Perhaps others have this same issue?

Another option is Rubber Decal Grips. They stay in place and are a great product. The sand version is equally great, however neither offer the finger grooves like the Pac Grip.

Scott

msidner · 11-26-2004, 10:23 PM

Yea, I was nervous about putting a sticker on the side of my XD and it wearing off. Perhaps I just need to suck it up and force myself to get accustomed to the unmodified grip. Main reason I instantly bought the Pachmyer is because I have a set on my Ruger that make that gun a super pleasure to shoot and control. The only prob really is the Pach's wanting to crawl up the grip safety, then when I trimmed it, it wants to climb higher. So I'm not sure if I should keep trimming until it stops wanting to move or what? They seem like rather nice grips, just like the ones on my Ruger, so its definitely not a quality issue. Perhaps somebody has some tips on how to get these nice and snug. Perhaps I should shim them with something? At this point I've already cut the grips, so there's no going back. Worst case is I ruin them in trying to obtain a better fit, so if anybody has any tips, feel free to let me know

Matthew

PS - Will look at the website about the decal grips. If they're "sandpaper" grips, what grit sandpaper would you say they feel like? I have about 30 grit grades here so I'm sure I can get a feel of it here if you can describe it.

msidner · 11-26-2004, 10:52 PM

Ok, searched the forums some more and looks like most folks who get the Decal Grips are pretty satisfied with them, so given that I don't want there to be any possibility of a 'failure" of the grip safety system (one of the reasons I got the XD), I think I'll be placing an order for a set of the sand style after once payday (yea, I know, they're only like $9 plus shipping, but hey, I've been buying gun stuff the last two weeks

) and we'll see how those do. One great thing about this forum, if the product exists, it seems somebody here somewhere at sometime has given their opinion of it. Its great!

Thanks again,
Matthew

**Old School** · 11-27-2004, 07:17 AM

80 grit-like. If you prefer the feel of rubber, the rubber grips are nice too.

As for the Pac Grip, you can try adding some double-stick tape in a few spots around the edge.

RIKOSHEY · 11-27-2004, 03:50 PM

Msidner:

The Hogue slip on does the same thing...it will move up the grip and eventually cover the grip safety...when this happens...you may not notice it until you pick up the gun and it fires around without having a good grip or if your drawing your weapon, you may grab the trigger in error

and have ahell of a hole on your foot or ???. I have the hogue on mine but it will be coming off as soon as I get some decal grips. Until then I just check the grip after each mag.

Rikoshey

msidner · 11-27-2004, 04:38 PM

Ok, so its not just me then, and its not the Pach if the hogue does the same thing. Yea, the more I read about it, I'm thinking I either need to get the Decals, get used to the Pach's failures on the grip safety (which is hard to do), or get used to the plain grip. Heh. Thanks for the info Rikoshey!

Matthew

**Old School** · 11-27-2004, 05:11 PM

The rubber Decal Grips are a bit thicker than the sand version, adding a bit more girth to the grip over the sand. Something else to consider, if you are going for a lean handle.

11-26-2004, 09:29 PM	#1
msidner XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 356	Another Satisfied Pistol-gear.com customer! Ok, first of all the shipping time was excellent, and having now spent a few shells down the range I have to say the investment was WELL worth it on Don's guide rod and the 22# spring. I'll be getting a 24# here shortly though, cause now that I've reduced the recoil quite a bit, I'd like to see just how much more I can bleed out of it. Only issue I have is with the Pachmyer grips. Put them on, trimmed to allow for the grip safety, but its like the XD's grip is too small for them, so the pachmyer wants to twist in the hand when firing, thus causing a rather serious lack of confidence in control in the weapon. Any advice on what I can do to tighten the slack out of them? The grips I don't feel are at fault, they're doing their job, I just don't think they're a solid match. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Matthew __________________ SA XD40 (my favorite) Don\'s Guide Rod Wolff Spring Ruger P95DC (the wife\'s favorite) Taurus CIA 650 .357 (light carry) Kel-Tec P3-AT (my new lighter carry) Raven M-25 (for when a little something is better than nothing)

11-26-2004, 09:41 PM	#2
Old School XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,583	Matt, The pac grip should fit the XD grip very snuggly. That said, because there is no adhesive holding it in place, it could twist if intended. That said, I have not heard of this issue before. Perhaps others have this same issue? Another option is Rubber Decal Grips. They stay in place and are a great product. The sand version is equally great, however neither offer the finger grooves like the Pac Grip. Scott __________________ Visit www.pistolgear.com for all of your XD needs!

11-26-2004, 10:23 PM	#3
msidner XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 356	Yea, I was nervous about putting a sticker on the side of my XD and it wearing off. Perhaps I just need to suck it up and force myself to get accustomed to the unmodified grip. Main reason I instantly bought the Pachmyer is because I have a set on my Ruger that make that gun a super pleasure to shoot and control. The only prob really is the Pach's wanting to crawl up the grip safety, then when I trimmed it, it wants to climb higher. So I'm not sure if I should keep trimming until it stops wanting to move or what? They seem like rather nice grips, just like the ones on my Ruger, so its definitely not a quality issue. Perhaps somebody has some tips on how to get these nice and snug. Perhaps I should shim them with something? At this point I've already cut the grips, so there's no going back. Worst case is I ruin them in trying to obtain a better fit, so if anybody has any tips, feel free to let me know Matthew PS - Will look at the website about the decal grips. If they're "sandpaper" grips, what grit sandpaper would you say they feel like? I have about 30 grit grades here so I'm sure I can get a feel of it here if you can describe it. __________________ SA XD40 (my favorite) Don\'s Guide Rod Wolff Spring Ruger P95DC (the wife\'s favorite) Taurus CIA 650 .357 (light carry) Kel-Tec P3-AT (my new lighter carry) Raven M-25 (for when a little something is better than nothing)

11-26-2004, 10:52 PM	#4
msidner XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 356	Ok, searched the forums some more and looks like most folks who get the Decal Grips are pretty satisfied with them, so given that I don't want there to be any possibility of a 'failure" of the grip safety system (one of the reasons I got the XD), I think I'll be placing an order for a set of the sand style after once payday (yea, I know, they're only like $9 plus shipping, but hey, I've been buying gun stuff the last two weeks ) and we'll see how those do. One great thing about this forum, if the product exists, it seems somebody here somewhere at sometime has given their opinion of it. Its great! Thanks again, Matthew __________________ SA XD40 (my favorite) Don\'s Guide Rod Wolff Spring Ruger P95DC (the wife\'s favorite) Taurus CIA 650 .357 (light carry) Kel-Tec P3-AT (my new lighter carry) Raven M-25 (for when a little something is better than nothing)

11-27-2004, 07:17 AM	#5
Old School XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,583	80 grit-like. If you prefer the feel of rubber, the rubber grips are nice too. As for the Pac Grip, you can try adding some double-stick tape in a few spots around the edge. __________________ Visit www.pistolgear.com for all of your XD needs!

11-27-2004, 03:50 PM	#6
RIKOSHEY XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: N/W Indiana Posts: 163	Msidner: The Hogue slip on does the same thing...it will move up the grip and eventually cover the grip safety...when this happens...you may not notice it until you pick up the gun and it fires around without having a good grip or if your drawing your weapon, you may grab the trigger in error and have ahell of a hole on your foot or ???. I have the hogue on mine but it will be coming off as soon as I get some decal grips. Until then I just check the grip after each mag. Rikoshey __________________ \"KEEP HONKING: I\'M RELOADING\" XD45ACP SVC XD-40 SVC, Dons GR w #22, /TFO\'s (EFK 9mm) XD9 SC / Heine Trit Slant Pro Strait 8\'s SA 1911A1 Blk SS Loaded Beretta Tomcat 32 Browning Buckmark Target 22 Colt Trooper Mk III 357 mag

11-27-2004, 04:38 PM	#7
msidner XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 356	Ok, so its not just me then, and its not the Pach if the hogue does the same thing. Yea, the more I read about it, I'm thinking I either need to get the Decals, get used to the Pach's failures on the grip safety (which is hard to do), or get used to the plain grip. Heh. Thanks for the info Rikoshey! Matthew __________________ SA XD40 (my favorite) Don\'s Guide Rod Wolff Spring Ruger P95DC (the wife\'s favorite) Taurus CIA 650 .357 (light carry) Kel-Tec P3-AT (my new lighter carry) Raven M-25 (for when a little something is better than nothing)

11-27-2004, 05:11 PM	#8
Old School XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,583	The rubber Decal Grips are a bit thicker than the sand version, adding a bit more girth to the grip over the sand. Something else to consider, if you are going for a lean handle. __________________ Visit www.pistolgear.com for all of your XD needs!

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