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**Old School** · 06-14-2007, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChessRat

So are the trigger bars in stock?

Yes.

Triaged · 06-15-2007, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Hostetter

The trigger bars are one piece, CNC machined from heat treated 1013 carbon steel billet...They do require minor fitting in the two spots indicated in the opening pictures...

Are they carburized or cyanided during heat treat? 1013 is a very low carbon soft steel. How hard are they after heat treat? How deep is the surface hardness? Is it deeper then the amount that would typically be removed in fitting the parts? What material and hardness are the stock parts?

If you don't feel comfortable posting this kind of engineering info on the forum feel free to email me.
triaged at gmail dot com

Bob Hostetter · 06-15-2007, 08:59 AM

Without going into too much detail they are heat treated to RC 35 (+/-) and CNC'ed from 1013 billet in one piece. The stock part is a two piece stamping made from low carbon steel (the factory isn't saying from what grade) with a heat treat in the same general area. Keep in mind the durability problems with the stock piece result from having the trigger pin pressed in. I would be happy to make them out of just about any material you like, just keep in mind that nothing stronger is needed, and the price would go up (depending on the material it would go up a lot). Please realize price is a function not only of material costs but also machine time and harder materials require slower machine times which translate into higher unit costs.

Except in the area of where the bar picks up and releases the striker block lever there is almost no surface wear at all. If you need to remove any material during fitting it is not in an area where there is any measureable surface friction. In the two places where there is contact friction at all (bar to striker block lever and bar to plastic frame) the trigger bar is much stronger even in it's unheat treated state. While anything can be broken, you are going to have to try really hard to break these trigger bars. If you break an unmodified one (except in the area of the two fitting pads) I will replace it for free as long as you own it. That warranty applies to all of the parts I make. Send me the broken one and I will send you a new one................

Triaged · 06-15-2007, 10:12 AM

Sounds reasonable to me. Thank you for the quick answer. I heard about this over on calguns and might have to meet you out in Norco one of these days.

Bob Hostetter · 06-15-2007, 11:08 AM

I will be a Prado Shooting Park in Chino all day this Saturday. I am going to shoot their IDPA match and then run a small shooting clinic afterwards. Please feel free to drop by. I will have at least one demo gun with me, and some parts if you want to take a look at them.

**Loves2Shoot** · 06-15-2007, 04:03 PM

For what it is worth...

IM Metal did make some of the bars out of cast and milled at one time that is not near the quality that is being used in these. If you have a trigger bar that has a closed hook that bar is not stamped.

I have yet to see one of those break, and I can't say the same for the the stamped and pined versions they use in most of them...

funeralplanner · 06-20-2007, 10:00 PM

Is anyone using one of these yet?

XDfsd · 06-21-2007, 07:23 PM

Damn it, every time I see this thread title, I read "First look a boobs." lol

NateGYoder · 06-22-2007, 09:11 AM

Bob, Any info on if the 45 trigger bars are going to happen or not? If they are any idea of rough time frame?

Thanks,
Nate Yoder

dhindo · 06-28-2007, 12:45 AM

I got my pistol back from Bob today!Damn!Very big difference on the travel and pull!

06-15-2007, 08:59 AM	#43
Bob Hostetter XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: So Calif Posts: 278	Without going into too much detail they are heat treated to RC 35 (+/-) and CNC'ed from 1013 billet in one piece. The stock part is a two piece stamping made from low carbon steel (the factory isn't saying from what grade) with a heat treat in the same general area. Keep in mind the durability problems with the stock piece result from having the trigger pin pressed in. I would be happy to make them out of just about any material you like, just keep in mind that nothing stronger is needed, and the price would go up (depending on the material it would go up a lot). Please realize price is a function not only of material costs but also machine time and harder materials require slower machine times which translate into higher unit costs. Except in the area of where the bar picks up and releases the striker block lever there is almost no surface wear at all. If you need to remove any material during fitting it is not in an area where there is any measureable surface friction. In the two places where there is contact friction at all (bar to striker block lever and bar to plastic frame) the trigger bar is much stronger even in it's unheat treated state. While anything can be broken, you are going to have to try really hard to break these trigger bars. If you break an unmodified one (except in the area of the two fitting pads) I will replace it for free as long as you own it. That warranty applies to all of the parts I make. Send me the broken one and I will send you a new one................ __________________ Bob Hostetter

06-15-2007, 11:08 AM	#45
Bob Hostetter XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: So Calif Posts: 278	I will be a Prado Shooting Park in Chino all day this Saturday. I am going to shoot their IDPA match and then run a small shooting clinic afterwards. Please feel free to drop by. I will have at least one demo gun with me, and some parts if you want to take a look at them. __________________ Bob Hostetter

06-15-2007, 04:03 PM	#46
Loves2Shoot XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 2,832	For what it is worth... IM Metal did make some of the bars out of cast and milled at one time that is not near the quality that is being used in these. If you have a trigger bar that has a closed hook that bar is not stamped. I have yet to see one of those break, and I can't say the same for the the stamped and pined versions they use in most of them... __________________ www.SpringerPrecision.com The XD Specialists - Our web store is now online!

06-20-2007, 10:00 PM	#47
funeralplanner XDTalk Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Greenville OHIO Posts: 76	Is anyone using one of these yet? __________________ XD40SC/XD40 Service/XD40 Tactical

06-21-2007, 07:23 PM	#48
XDfsd XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 20	Damn it, every time I see this thread title, I read "First look a boobs." lol __________________ "If it rains and we can't hit the beach, can we go to the range?"- Wife. Black XD9-sc Bi-tone XD9 sc

06-15-2007, 10:12 AM	#44
Triaged XDTalk Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 66	Sounds reasonable to me. Thank you for the quick answer. I heard about this over on calguns and might have to meet you out in Norco one of these days.

06-22-2007, 09:11 AM	#49
NateGYoder XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4	45 trigger bar Bob, Any info on if the 45 trigger bars are going to happen or not? If they are any idea of rough time frame? Thanks, Nate Yoder

06-28-2007, 12:45 AM	#50
dhindo XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 231	I got my pistol back from Bob today!Damn!Very big difference on the travel and pull!

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