red dot sight on a springfield emp?

[FreeMarketAnarchist]

Originally Posted by 1lowlife

I would not want to rely on a sight system that is battery powered.
Batteries as well as electronics can and do fail.

That is why many don't recommend laser sights.
Don't rely on gimmicks when you and your family's life is on the line.

Practice, train, and learn to shoot with your iron sights.
Whether they be night sights, Big Dots, or standard iron sights.

I didn't like the stock night sights on my EMP.
The silver outlined night sights were too hard for me to focus on.

Most of my carry guns have night sights.
But for the EMP I went with a 10-8 rear sight and gold bead front.

You can do whatever you want, but a red dot on a 3 inch 1911 carry gun doesn't make much sense to me..

Good luck..1LL

Ah i see, i was under the impression that failure with a thoroughly tested top of the line optics like the trijicon rmr would be unlikely enough to be outweighed by the previously mentioned advantages. However if this is the reason why no one does it than the costs do probably outweigh the advantages, thanks.

[1lowlife]

Originally Posted by FreeMarketAnarchist

Ah i see, i was under the impression that failure with a thoroughly tested top of the line optics like the trijicon rmr would be unlikely enough to be outweighed by the previously mentioned advantages. However if this is the reason why no one does it than the costs do probably outweigh the advantages, thanks.

Anything electrical can fail, no matter how much testing was done.
Tritium vials can fail in night sights, but you still have a usable sight to aim with, even if the tritium goes dim.
If your electronic optics fail, you're stuck with point and shoot with a loss of accuracy (what you seem to want to gain), and a useless hunk of glass and metal on top of your slide.
And good luck with selling that pistol with a regrooved slide to fit your trijicon rmr, if indeed you ever wanted to sell it.

As far as putting too much money into your EMP;
I invested $800 for mods done by SACS for my EMP, damn near what the pistol cost me.
But the gun is exactly the way I want it and it meets my needs.

Just train and shoot with iron sights, that way you won't need an oversized electronic device to make up for your lack of confidence to shoot your carry pistol.
We can do the sarcasm bit all day long..

As stated, it is your pistol, do as you wish..
You asked for opinions and I gave you one..
Take it or leave it...

Oh, and welcome to the forum..

[FreeMarketAnarchist]

Originally Posted by 1lowlife

Anything electrical can fail, no matter how much testing was done.
Tritium vials can fail in night sights, but you still have a usable sight to aim with, even if the tritium goes dim.
If your electronic optics fail, you're stuck with point and shoot with a loss of accuracy (what you seem to want to gain), and a useless hunk of glass and metal on top of your slide.
And good luck with selling that pistol with a regrooved slide to fit your trijicon rmr, if indeed you ever wanted to sell it.

As far as putting too much money into your EMP;
I invested $800 for mods done by SACS for my EMP, damn near what the pistol cost me.
But the gun is exactly the way I want it and it meets my needs.

Just train and shoot with iron sights, that way you won't need an oversized electronic device to make up for your lack of confidence to shoot your carry pistol.
We can do the sarcasm bit all day long..

As stated, it is your pistol, do as you wish..
You asked for opinions and I gave you one..
Take it or leave it...

Oh, and welcome to the forum..

Thank you for taking the time to address my question, your input is genuinely appreciated.

[MrMiller]

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[1lowlife]

Originally Posted by MrMiller

Or perhaps something like these as well?

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Welcome to the forum MrMiller.........

[OKcherokee]

Looks like 1LL pretty much hit the nail on the head there.

You would get better use of the money you were going to spend in a red dot by just buying some range time and a lot of ammo.

Not to say having a red dot on a pistol wouldn't be fun, I would just want it on a dedicated competition/range pistol, not on an EDC.


Welcome to the forum man.

[MrMiller]

Originally Posted by 1lowlife

Welcome to the forum MrMiller.........

Why Thank you!

[Rolex John]

I'm a BIG believer in red dot sites. While there is no denying that there is a risk of failure, don't let that dissuade you from considering going this route. However, do it right - spend the money and have the slide milled by someone experienced like Bowie Tactical and have back up iron sites installed. Doing so pretty much negates any argument against having a red dot site on a pistol. Here's one of my three S&W M&P 9c's which I've had customized:



EMP is a great gun - I've also had one sent to the SACS and had significant work done. I wouldn't have the heart to ruin the nice lines on the gun by attaching a red dot, bit then again my EMP isn't a primary carry/fighting weapon for me: