Home Defense/SHTF Shotgun?

[jcabin]

Originally Posted by east_stingray

Before you buy a shotgun for home defense, walk through your house with an (unloaded) long gun and try to turn corners, go up stairs while turning corners, etc. You might decide a pistol works better for your situation.

Unless, of course, you're just looking for a reason to buy another gun. In that case, by all means... stimulate the economy!

Your first point is a good idea..

Your second point really just hits my situation dead on the nail haha

Chances are we'll have WW3 before theres a home invasion in the area i live in. However, drive a couple miles up the mountain and you're into to some bad people. Don't think they'd randomly attack my house of all in this neighborhood.. I'd say the risk factor of a home invasion in my neighborhood about a 5% chance.

[texas_rebel_1980]

get the mossberg!!!

[fivehourfrenzy]

For those of you that recommend using a pistol over a shotgun for HD, there are a few things you should consider:

1. Handguns are remote control drills. They are "what you use to fight your way back to your gun." Even a .460, .480, and .500 will not have the devastating close-quarter ballistics of buckshot.

2. Handguns do not have stocks. In a stressful situation, such as armed invaders stepping into your home, you're gonna lose 60-80% of your ability to perform. Without a stock, you're probably gonna miss. This goes for stock-less shotguns as well, although because they're heavier, jittery hands won't affect them as much.

3. Shotguns spread out. No, they don't take out an entire wall from ten feet, but they do offer more leniency when it comes to shot placement.

I realize shotguns are cumbersome compared to handguns. Fine, get a short youth stock, and get an 18" barrel. A tactically aware person should be able to maneuver through a house with a short-barreled shotgun. Can't do it right away? It's called practice.

If there was a bump in the night, I would not grab my puny little .45...I'd grab my 12-gauge, jack a round of 00 buckshot in the chamber, flip the tac-lite on, and hope the BG is smart enough to leave before his heart and lungs get turned into a pile of mush on my carpet.

[jcabin]

Originally Posted by texas_rebel_1980

get the mossberg!!!

that is beautiful!!! Thats the 590 special purpose black matte right? item number 50660, i'm pretty sure thats the one i've head my heart set on. Budsgunshop has them for 367$ delivered from what i checked last night.
I'd rather buy from a local gun shop than online, so i'll be heading to all 4 this weekend, hitting 2 of them today. If the price is much higher at the local gun shop i'll buy it online. Anyone have any thoughts? Is buying online a hard process or is it easy? thanks

[Vandal]

my HD shotty is a Rem 870 Express Mag with 18 in bbl, Streamlight M3 tac light and an Uncle Mike's 5 round stock saddle. I keep the 6 round mag loaded a slug coming out first followed by 00 buckshot.

If I am home the entire purpose of my pistol is to fight my way to the long guns in the house. The 45 hollowpoints will jack someone up but they have nothing on a 12 ga.

[east_stingray]

Originally Posted by fivehourfrenzy

For those of you that recommend using a pistol over a shotgun for HD, there are a few things you should consider:

1. Handguns are remote control drills. They are "what you use to fight your way back to your gun." Even a .460, .480, and .500 will not have the devastating close-quarter ballistics of buckshot.

2. Handguns do not have stocks. In a stressful situation, such as armed invaders stepping into your home, you're gonna lose 60-80% of your ability to perform. Without a stock, you're probably gonna miss. This goes for stock-less shotguns as well, although because they're heavier, jittery hands won't affect them as much.

3. Shotguns spread out. No, they don't take out an entire wall from ten feet, but they do offer more leniency when it comes to shot placement.

I realize shotguns are cumbersome compared to handguns. Fine, get a short youth stock, and get an 18" barrel. A tactically aware person should be able to maneuver through a house with a short-barreled shotgun. Can't do it right away? It's called practice.

If there was a bump in the night, I would not grab my puny little .45...I'd grab my 12-gauge, jack a round of 00 buckshot in the chamber, flip the tac-lite on, and hope the BG is smart enough to leave before his heart and lungs get turned into a pile of mush on my carpet.

Gecko?

[texas_rebel_1980]

LOL

i'll take my 45 when something goes bump. btw that isn't my shotty in that pic. i have a remy 870 express supermagnum. it is a duck killing beast from hell, but way too long to maneuver in my home. maybe if i had a SBS, then maybe, but i can clear my home much better with a handgun.

[slugger6]

My home defense shotty is a Mossberg 590 with a Knoxx Special Ops stock.

[drgonzo]

I've got a Mossberg 930 (semi-auto) with an 18.5" barrel. Came as a combo with a 28" barrel I use for sporting clays. Was about $450 when I bought it a couple of years ago.

I shot it out of the box when I first got it and had one FTE. Took it home, cleaned it and since then have not had any problems. There was a lot of heavy lube on and in the gun from the factory. I don't shoot it that often, like maybe 6-7 rounds of sporting clays a year so I'm not a high volume shooter. I'd say over the time I've had it I've put about 500 rounds through it.

I like a semi-auto over a pump for a couple of reasons. One is that I noticed I shoot better scores with a semi-auto. Probably if I shot more often and took it seriously that discrepancy would vanish. For HD purposes I always figured I'd spazz and not work the action on a pump in a stress situation.

One more thing: What's SHTF?

I know, I know. If I think working a pump is bad in an HD situation, how am I gonna feel about clearing a jam from my 930? What can I say? It's the choice I made.

The PP about walking through your house with a long gun is a good one. With an 18.5" barrel, I can maneuver pretty well. Another thing I'd suggest is that you try and find a range with a shotgun pattern test area to see how the pattern spreads at different distances. What I found is that even with the short barrel, the spread is pretty minimal out to about 10-15 feet, which is what I consider to be a typical HD shooting distance. Something to consider when you think about 'forgiving' aim with a shotgun.

[SVThuh]

Like someone said above. The Rem 870 is the ONLY option for a quality SHTF pump 12ga. I wouldnt trade mine for anything!