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Old 05-26-2008, 06:45 PM   #21
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Perhaps you should ask Kahr how they chambered a round to fire it?
When you sent the gun in did you send the magazine in as well?
Do you have other magazines?

It sounds to me like Kahr is pretty confident the gun works and you seem to be just as confident it doesn't.
The difference being that Kahr has fired the gun twice.
I am very confused by all of this.

Can you (post) a picture of the gun when it won't go into battery?
That's a really good point - that they fired a round out of it. I don't know what ammo they fired. But it is worth asking about.

I did send the mag that came with the gun back with the gun. I am doubting it's a mag issue, though that is a very good guess. I doubt it because I had trouble with the slide going to battery after dropping a round directly into the chamber and closing the slide.

I did call and left a message with their customer service person I had spoken previously. I left that message a little over a week ago and have not yet heard back. I will look around for the cable that connects the camera to the computer to send a pic. I appreciate all the help I can get.

I am also very confused (and very frustrated!) by all this.

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Old 05-26-2008, 08:26 PM   #22
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That's a really good point - that they fired a round out of it. I don't know what ammo they fired. But it is worth asking about.

I did send the mag that came with the gun back with the gun. I am doubting it's a mag issue, though that is a very good guess. I doubt it because I had trouble with the slide going to battery after dropping a round directly into the chamber and closing the slide.

I did call and left a message with their customer service person I had spoken previously. I left that message a little over a week ago and have not yet heard back. I will look around for the cable that connects the camera to the computer to send a pic. I appreciate all the help I can get.

I am also very confused (and very frustrated!) by all this.

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It clearly states in the manual that you shouldn't load in individual round in the chamber and close the slide.This can damage the extractor.
Only chamber rounds from the magazine.

Maybe next time you should read the manual.
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I used Speer 200 gr Lawman for my test.
If it will feed the flying ash tray it should feed anything. I tend to use the same round for testing .45's.
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It clearly states in the manual that you shouldn't load in individual round in the chamber and close the slide.This can damage the extractor.
Only chamber rounds from the magazine.

Maybe next time you should read the manual.
+1.......My P9 manual says the same thing.
I too, would like to see photos of it not in battery.

Do you want to sell it?
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:29 AM   #26
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It clearly states in the manual that you shouldn't load in individual round in the chamber and close the slide.This can damage the extractor.
Only chamber rounds from the magazine.

Maybe next time you should read the manual.
Maybe next time I should get a real gun or at least one that works reliably. I was just trying to figure out some way to get it to chamber. It's worth noting that this is not my very first gun I've ever owned. It's just the first one that's been such a pain in the ass right out of the box.

Only chamber rounds from the magazine, but not by racking the slide back as that might cause damage and only hitting the slide release. Is this gun made of egg shells or what?
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Maybe next time I should get a real gun or at least one that works reliably. I was just trying to figure out some way to get it to chamber. It's worth noting that this is not my very first gun I've ever owned. It's just the first one that's been such a pain in the ass right out of the box.

Only chamber rounds from the magazine, but not by racking the slide back as that might cause damage and only hitting the slide release. Is this gun made of egg shells or what?
You can damage any semi auto including Glocks loading in this fashion the edge of the extractor can chip or break. They are designed to feed from the magazine using the controlled feed principle, meaning that the extractor is designed to capture the round as its leaving the magazine to guide it into the chamber, if you damage the extractor the round can flop around and cause a jam. You really are over thinking this take the gun and a couple of boxes of ammo to the range and fire it. You were planning to see where it shoots before carrying it anyway right?
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Maybe next time I should get a real gun or at least one that works reliably. I was just trying to figure out some way to get it to chamber. It's worth noting that this is not my very first gun I've ever owned. It's just the first one that's been such a pain in the ass right out of the box.

Only chamber rounds from the magazine, but not by racking the slide back as that might cause damage and only hitting the slide release. Is this gun made of egg shells or what?
I'm trying to help you get to the bottom of your problem.

The bottom line is you should have read the manual if you would have you would have known about the break in etc...
When I bought my first Kahr I thought it was odd that it "required" a 200 round break in to be reliable,but I didn't make the gun they did and if that is what they say to do I am going to do it.
My first Kahr was trouble free from the 1st round and has never had a problem.
My second Kahr did have probably 5 FTE in the first 150 rounds,I was not worried about it.I knew it needed the 200 round break in plus I wanted to run at least 100 of my carry rounds throught it before I would trust it(or any gun for that matter)for carry.
By the time I reached 200 rounds the FTE's were gone and the thing ran like a top.
Here is what I would do if I were you.
Soak the gun overnight in Breakfree clp or Weaponshield clp.
Thoroughly clean the gun(get in all the little nooks and crannies),use a good lube like tw-25 etc... on the frame and slide rails and manually rack the slide a few hundred times,clean gun thoroughly again then relube.
Now try to use the slide release to chamber a round and go from there.

The other thing is by cleaning the gun if you do have a problem that requires it to go back to Kahr you will know for sure whether or not they actually fired a round or not.I'm not saying Kahr is dishonest(everytime I have dealt with them they have been great) but for your own peace of mind.

BTW If you can get those pics that would be great.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:45 PM   #29
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I finally found some ammo that would feed in my Kahr CW4543. It wouldn' feed / didn't like Federal 230 gr Hyrdashocks, Remington 230 gr Golden Sabers, or Hornaday 230 TAP. I couldn't get that to load. But the store finally got some 230 FMJ WW ammo in and it fed that. So I shot it.

It is accurate, and doesn't kick as much as one might expect. The trigger, though very, very smooth, does take about a week to pull. I guess that's to give one time to think if they really want to fire or not. Maybe I'll just carry 230 FMJ in it? So I'll shoot it and we'll see.

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I haven't had any problems with the PM9. Sorry to hear the CW45 is giving you grief. Let us know how it does after you get 200 rounds through it. One thing I have found with Kahrs is they are really accurate. The PM 9 is a short barrel 3" and groups and shoots like a dream. It will eat anything I feed it from HST's, WWB, Speer, Federal, UMC and Fochi.

How many mags do you have for it? My PM 9 came with 2 a six and seven round. Try getting another mag and see if it's the mag causing your problem. I've got one mag for my XD 357 that slammed bullets into the feedramp and jamed. I trimmed the lip of it a little with the dremmel and it solved the problem.
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