Very dissapointed with new Colt 04860XSE LW Commander - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

**Cannibul** · 04-21-2008, 06:35 PM

I picked this pistol up from a member here.

Another Colt botch job.

Pistol refused to function with the included mags. In fact none of the 4 1911 frames functioned with those mags.

Then the set screw for the rear sight would shoot loose every 10-15 rounds.

Many people would have thought they had a bad gun. I merely switched mags and it would go bang every time I pulled the trigger. But the sight thing really has me wondering.

**mvician** · 04-21-2008, 06:56 PM

set screw ?
what mags did you get with this ?

bama · 04-21-2008, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannibul

Then the set screw for the rear sight would shoot loose every 10-15 rounds.

Do I hear a need for Loctite?

**Cannibul** · 04-21-2008, 07:06 PM

The pistol has Novak type sights. There is a set screw in the center of the rear sight.

And it came with Colt branded SS mags.

KarolinaKid · 04-21-2008, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannibul

I picked this pistol up from a member here.

Another Colt botch job.

Pistol refused to function with the included mags. In fact none of the 4 1911 frames functioned with those mags.

Then the set screw for the rear sight would shoot loose every 10-15 rounds.

Many people would have thought they had a bad gun. I merely switched mags and it would go bang every time I pulled the trigger. But the sight thing really has me wondering.

Just curious if the seller disclosed these issues?

**mvician** · 04-21-2008, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannibul

The pistol has Novak type sights. There is a set screw in the center of the rear sight.

And it came with Colt branded SS mags.

any setscrew on a firearm will require loctite to keep it in place.

**Cannibul** · 04-21-2008, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mvician

any setscrew on a firearm will require loctite to keep it in place.

And normally that Loctite is applied at the factory.

The gun was NIB. So how could the seller be aware of the crappy magazines?

sldghmr · 04-22-2008, 06:09 AM

Loctite blue not red if you ever want to take the set screw out again.

eyesopened · 04-22-2008, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannibul

Then the set screw for the rear sight would shoot loose every 10-15 rounds.

Same thing happened on my brother's NIB Colt Commander. It was the Stainless version.

Brickboy240 · 04-22-2008, 08:52 AM

Does it function 100% with aftermarket mags? How does it group?

If it works fine...I'd order more aftermarket mags and call it good. The Colt mag that came with my 1973 Combat Commander was junk as well. I even replaced the innards with a new follower and a Wolff spring and it was better but still tried to double feed. Wilson 47Ds have been 100% in it so I am not all that distressed.

The rear sight? Well, Lock-tite can fix that. I am not big on pistol sights that are adjustable (unless its on a target/range gun only). They're just too delecate and fussy - even the more expensive ones...I won't have them on a working 1911 ever. A set of Kings Hardball sights would look sweet on a Commander and are less hassle and not that expensive. My 1953 Govt Model wears those and they have been trouble free for about 10 years.

I don't think you have a lemon there...just needs a few tweaks to be good. Welcome to Colt 1911s! Seriously, though, once you work the small bugs out of a Colt 1911 (and every one I have owned has had SOME issue) they're really good shooters.

- brickboy240

04-21-2008, 06:35 PM	#1
Cannibul XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Moscow on the Willamette Posts: 2,126	Very dissapointed with new Colt 04860XSE LW Commander I picked this pistol up from a member here. Another Colt botch job. Pistol refused to function with the included mags. In fact none of the 4 1911 frames functioned with those mags. Then the set screw for the rear sight would shoot loose every 10-15 rounds. Many people would have thought they had a bad gun. I merely switched mags and it would go bang every time I pulled the trigger. But the sight thing really has me wondering. __________________ Semper Fi Can't quote the "out of touch guy" any more! I don't own any guns. Guns are evil. KEVWYO - Please reply to this thread http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/politic...-anti-gun.html

04-21-2008, 06:56 PM	#2
mvician XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 3,355	set screw ? what mags did you get with this ? __________________ AR15s...ya I've built more than a few http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/ar-talk...ar-family.html ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

04-21-2008, 07:06 PM	#4
Cannibul XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Moscow on the Willamette Posts: 2,126	The pistol has Novak type sights. There is a set screw in the center of the rear sight. And it came with Colt branded SS mags. __________________ Semper Fi Can't quote the "out of touch guy" any more! I don't own any guns. Guns are evil. KEVWYO - Please reply to this thread http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/politic...-anti-gun.html

04-22-2008, 08:52 AM	#10
Brickboy240 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 9,965	Does it function 100% with aftermarket mags? How does it group? If it works fine...I'd order more aftermarket mags and call it good. The Colt mag that came with my 1973 Combat Commander was junk as well. I even replaced the innards with a new follower and a Wolff spring and it was better but still tried to double feed. Wilson 47Ds have been 100% in it so I am not all that distressed. The rear sight? Well, Lock-tite can fix that. I am not big on pistol sights that are adjustable (unless its on a target/range gun only). They're just too delecate and fussy - even the more expensive ones...I won't have them on a working 1911 ever. A set of Kings Hardball sights would look sweet on a Commander and are less hassle and not that expensive. My 1953 Govt Model wears those and they have been trouble free for about 10 years. I don't think you have a lemon there...just needs a few tweaks to be good. Welcome to Colt 1911s! Seriously, though, once you work the small bugs out of a Colt 1911 (and every one I have owned has had SOME issue) they're really good shooters. - brickboy240 __________________ The top 25% of wage earners in America pay 86% of all federal income taxes collected. (according to 2007 IRS website data) Es mejor morir a pie que vivir arrodillado Volvo...the Swedish Brick!

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04-22-2008, 06:09 AM	#8
sldghmr XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Springboro, Ohio Posts: 124	Loctite blue not red if you ever want to take the set screw out again.