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Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z)
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electronic rifle. with electronicly activated primer
im sure many of you have heard of these, but i thought it was very interesting and thought maybe someone hasnt seen it yet.
obviously wouldnt be a good gun for military work but for a hunter or target shooter i think it would work great. that is if it became common and was the same price as regular guns or at least very close to the same price. but im sure i will get alot of "the old way works why change it?" but muskets also "worked". im not saying its better right now but i think it could be better eventually especially in full auto and target shooting. with full auto the rounds per miniute would be increased and with target you could have a trigger as light as you wanted it could be like .1 ounces. the main advantages i can see is lock time and trigger weight.. if they found a way to set off a regular primer with this gun that would be even better but the obvious cons are it cost alot more and you have to worrie about batteries. but the battery issue isnt a big deal except for a combat situation "Model 700™ EtronX™ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr> <td width="637"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="630"> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="productdesc" width="100%"> Here's how the Model 700 EtronX works: The electronic fire control has no moving parts other than the trigger. No sear to be released. No firing pin to strike the primer. Instead, an internal electrical circuit sends a charge through the system to our electrically responsive primer. Closing the bolt on the cartridge establishes contact between the firing pin and the primer. When the trigger is pulled, the electronic circuit sends an electrical pulse through the firing pin directly to the primer. This all happens in less than the blink of an eye. Ignition is even faster, with near zero lock time (.0000027 seconds, actually), which virtually eliminates the effects of barrel movement after pulling the trigger. In fact, the bullet exits the barrel of the Model 700 EtronX before a mechanical firing pin could even hit the primer in a conventional rifle. The system also creates an exceptionally crisp trigger pull with 36% less travel than standard triggers. ![]() In keeping with at least some tradition, the Model 700 EtronX rifle retains all the other classic aspects of our famous Model 700 bolt-action rifle. It includes the same features as the revered Model 700 VS SF with a stainless-steel action, 26-inch fluted barrel, black synthetic stock, full-length aluminum bedding block, and hinged magazine floor plate. Chambered for 220 Swift, 22-250 Remington, and 243 Win, the Model 700 EtronX is available in limited quantities. Have your local dealer contact Zanders Sporting Goods for ordering details. </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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I might have read it wrong, but doesn't sound like it needs special ammo(or at least primers) to ignite?
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As for the rifle, I have only one thing to say. "Why?"
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The only issue I have with this is that, in my experience electronics are prone to faster failure in adverse conditions than mechanics. Admittedly this is largely due to the difference in time these have been prevalent.
In another 5 years, I'd say "hell yes" Even better for the "most accurate shot" I'd say have two electrodes in the trigger making it so that as soon as your finger touched the trigger your body completed the circuit, resulting in the weapon firing. talk about a "hair trigger" Only other question becomes....what happens when your battery goes dead.
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XDTalk 100 Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
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nothing, except a frustrated user.
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Central NC
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Remington failed with that. The ammo was, and still is about 35% higher than conventional ammo. I admit, I bought one. Took me forever to sell it once the "neat" factor was gone.
CVA has come out with a primerless igniton called the Electra for their black powder guns. It has zero trigger movement, and you dont have to worry about the battery (they say) for 500 shots. I havent fired one yet..but the fact that the trigger has no real feedback..its gonna be odd for sure. |
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it does need different primers and they cannot be fired in a regular gun. i think after a few years of improved electronics it would be cool for the reasons i stated with target shooting. and i stock could easily accomidate a couple extra batteries. but i wont be buying one anytime soon
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I'll keep my Plasma Rifle in the 40watt range.
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What about reloading? I don't think I have ever seen the primers for sale. That was a big killer for me when it hit the market. I also thought I had heard that they were no longer produced.
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I've seen that... I don't like it.
Last thing you need is to not be able to take the shot because the batteries are dead. Plus it's not EMP proof. It's an answer to a problem that doesn't exist.
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