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gun1three · 02-23-2008, 11:10 PM

I know they are not cheap, but you really do get what you pay for with a Kahr. I have a lot of handguns to chose from and for concealed carry I always carry the Kahr PM9. It is a subcompact 9mm, black finish on a stainless steel slide with night sights. I carry it in a flat back leather slide holster. It is so comfortable you forget you are wearing it. I have big hands and it is easy to manage the gun when firing. It comes with an extended mag when you purchase the gun. I carry the extended mag in a single clip-on mag pouch. I personally don't understand extended mags in concealed carry guns while carrying them. The flush mag holds 6 rounds and the extended 7 rounds, they are single stack mags. It kind of defeats the purpose of concealing a small gun. But to each his own. Absolutely fire your concealed carry gun if at all possible before purchasing. The Kahrs are pricey at $650-$700 for the subcompacts with night sights.

If interested I will post pictures of gun and holster/mag pouch.

**hobocircus** · 02-24-2008, 03:24 AM

Hmmmm?
I can see a Policeman with a BUG (Back Up Gun), but for the average CCW holder? I am not sold on the idea

45XDC · 02-24-2008, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobocircus

Hmmmm?
I can see a Policeman with a BUG (Back Up Gun), but for the average CCW holder? I am not sold on the idea

I guess some folks live more dangerous lives than you....Just kidding. I personally have yet to see the need to carry two guns except when I was recently over in the Mid. East when sometimes I had 3. That said, there are times when I don't want a 2lb gun on my person. That's when my "Back up to normal carry Gun" really shines. You know, like when you're wearing that Speedo at the beach...LOL or maybe in some of those gun free zones. At 12.7 ounces ( KT PF-9) there's really no reason not to have it on you even if you are in shorts and a T- shirt. Note: In no way would I recommend it as a replacement for the XD but sometimes another option is nice. BTW, you can never have too many guns unless you ask my wife.

genesis · 02-24-2008, 03:53 PM

Slight change in plans as of 1 hour ago. Finally got out to shoot the xd40sc this afternoon, and while I was there I was talking to a guy trying to sell his Bersa .380 duotone double stack. Looks brand new and the kid wanted to trade it in on an xd9sc. I overheard the dealer offer him $150 for it while I was checking out a new Para LDA 9mm (beautiful gun, feels like it was made for me). So after the kid left the store, we got to talking, and I may buy it from him for a little more than $150.

Myk9noseknows · 02-24-2008, 05:13 PM

Ruger SP101 or a Taurus 605. Ruger can be found in .357 or 9mm, 605 is a good size for a .357.
It's a good gun to fire through a pocket if necessary. Definitely do NOT get the KT, I've owned a few, I had cap guns as a kid that were built more solid

Lazarus · 02-24-2008, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobocircus

Hmmmm?
I can see a Policeman with a BUG (Back Up Gun), but for the average CCW holder? I am not sold on the idea

Me neither. Some shooting guy says "1 is none and 2 is 1" and now its law. Most shootout occur in 5 rounds or less.

Myk9noseknows · 02-24-2008, 10:23 PM

+1 on the Kahr, I've got a PM9 on my hip right now loaded with DPX

Quote:

Originally Posted by gun1three

I know they are not cheap, but you really do get what you pay for with a Kahr. I have a lot of handguns to chose from and for concealed carry I always carry the Kahr PM9. It is a subcompact 9mm, black finish on a stainless steel slide with night sights. I carry it in a flat back leather slide holster. It is so comfortable you forget you are wearing it. I have big hands and it is easy to manage the gun when firing. It comes with an extended mag when you purchase the gun. I carry the extended mag in a single clip-on mag pouch. I personally don't understand extended mags in concealed carry guns while carrying them. The flush mag holds 6 rounds and the extended 7 rounds, they are single stack mags. It kind of defeats the purpose of concealing a small gun. But to each his own. Absolutely fire your concealed carry gun if at all possible before purchasing. The Kahrs are pricey at $650-$700 for the subcompacts with night sights.

If interested I will post pictures of gun and holster/mag pouch.

**Frenchy** · 02-24-2008, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobocircus

Hmmmm?
I can see a Policeman with a BUG (Back Up Gun), but for the average CCW holder? I am not sold on the idea

That's my thinking to hobo, but whatever "floats your boat".

danp · 02-24-2008, 11:50 PM

At work I carry 2 to 3 guns. Off duty, it depends on where I am going and what I am doing, but I have to admit that I have carried 3 (hip, ankle and coat pocket) guns off duty once.

If you're gonna play the odds, you shouldn't need anything more than a snub nose 5-shot .38 and no reload. But I'd rather hedge my bets and carry as many guns and as much ammo as makes me feel comfortable.

genesis · 02-25-2008, 05:33 AM

Don't get me wrong. i don't exactly live in a dangerous area. The way I'm thinking, if I'm already going to be carrying my XD, why not a second? I do get into some areas of Detroit I'd rather not be, but not too often.
It would also be a backup in the sense of when I'm not able to carry the XD and would prefer to carry something a bit slimmer

02-24-2008, 03:24 AM	#12
hobocircus XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Nevada Desert on a Dry Lakebed. Living in a trailer with thunderstorms looming in the distance. Posts: 3,382	Hmmmm? I can see a Policeman with a BUG (Back Up Gun), but for the average CCW holder? I am not sold on the idea __________________ Ported V-10 XD9 Service SOLD Tactical XD9 in Basic Black I like to shoot Wolf ammo out of my Hi-Point pistol and rifle.

02-24-2008, 05:13 PM	#15
Myk9noseknows XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,993	Ruger SP101 or a Taurus 605. Ruger can be found in .357 or 9mm, 605 is a good size for a .357. It's a good gun to fire through a pocket if necessary. Definitely do NOT get the KT, I've owned a few, I had cap guns as a kid that were built more solid __________________ "When people need help, they call the Police. When Police need help, they call K-9"

02-24-2008, 11:50 PM	#19
danp XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 1,438	At work I carry 2 to 3 guns. Off duty, it depends on where I am going and what I am doing, but I have to admit that I have carried 3 (hip, ankle and coat pocket) guns off duty once. If you're gonna play the odds, you shouldn't need anything more than a snub nose 5-shot .38 and no reload. But I'd rather hedge my bets and carry as many guns and as much ammo as makes me feel comfortable. __________________ God made cops so that firefighters could have heros too. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Nietzche

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02-23-2008, 11:10 PM	#11
gun1three XDTalk Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 37	I know they are not cheap, but you really do get what you pay for with a Kahr. I have a lot of handguns to chose from and for concealed carry I always carry the Kahr PM9. It is a subcompact 9mm, black finish on a stainless steel slide with night sights. I carry it in a flat back leather slide holster. It is so comfortable you forget you are wearing it. I have big hands and it is easy to manage the gun when firing. It comes with an extended mag when you purchase the gun. I carry the extended mag in a single clip-on mag pouch. I personally don't understand extended mags in concealed carry guns while carrying them. The flush mag holds 6 rounds and the extended 7 rounds, they are single stack mags. It kind of defeats the purpose of concealing a small gun. But to each his own. Absolutely fire your concealed carry gun if at all possible before purchasing. The Kahrs are pricey at $650-$700 for the subcompacts with night sights. If interested I will post pictures of gun and holster/mag pouch.

02-24-2008, 03:53 PM	#14
genesis XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SE MI Posts: 189	Slight change in plans as of 1 hour ago. Finally got out to shoot the xd40sc this afternoon, and while I was there I was talking to a guy trying to sell his Bersa .380 duotone double stack. Looks brand new and the kid wanted to trade it in on an xd9sc. I overheard the dealer offer him $150 for it while I was checking out a new Para LDA 9mm (beautiful gun, feels like it was made for me). So after the kid left the store, we got to talking, and I may buy it from him for a little more than $150.

02-25-2008, 05:33 AM	#20
genesis XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SE MI Posts: 189	Don't get me wrong. i don't exactly live in a dangerous area. The way I'm thinking, if I'm already going to be carrying my XD, why not a second? I do get into some areas of Detroit I'd rather not be, but not too often. It would also be a backup in the sense of when I'm not able to carry the XD and would prefer to carry something a bit slimmer