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Automatic Slim · 10-04-2007, 10:57 AM

Aguy I know has a Russian AK, 7.62, for sale at $850. He claims it is in pristine condition, only been fired a few times. It comes with one "8 round" mag, and a case.

I'm thinking he wants to much. What do you AK guys think?

Brickboy240 · 10-04-2007, 11:06 AM

First of all, all Russian AK-47s were select fire rifles. This means they're considered Class 3 by the ATF and one has to go through background checks, pay a tax and jump through hoops before you can actually own a Russian AK-47. A true Russian AK-47 would probably be a several thousand dollar item.

Now, even if you did all the ATF legwork, at 850 bucks, a Russkie select fire AK would be an absolute steal...but I doubt seriously this is what he has. If he owns a real Russian AK-47 and does not have the permit and paid the tax or registered with the ATF...run...thats completely illegal.

The standard magazine for a Russian AK holds 30 rounds. I don't think they used any lower capacity mags.

Are you sure that what he has isn't a Russian SKS with a 10-rd fixed magazine? If so, its a great rifle (I have one), but even pristine ones will set you back 300-350 bucks on its best day.

Try to get a little more info...I really doubt its a true Russian/Soviet AK...but who knows?

- Brickboy240

**Old School** · 10-04-2007, 11:22 AM

Best ask him for a few pics of the rifle and the markings. Post them here for the team to review.

OS

**Majk** · 10-04-2007, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old School

Best ask him for a few pics of the rifle and the markings. Post them here for the team to review.

OS

Good point OS. Brickboy would be able to tell you in a heartbeat what it is. Seriously we have some incredibly knowledgeable people here.

**einheit 13** · 10-04-2007, 06:23 PM

Actually, Saigas are Russian AKs. A small batch of Type 1 AKs came to this country in the mid 60s. They had milled receivers and the third hole was welded up. A few Russian kits came here too, the same time German MPi-AK-47s came here.....

Brickboy is right though....even if its a russian kit gun, its not worth the money unless Ted Marshall built it and the receiver.....

Automatic Slim · 10-04-2007, 07:04 PM

The story that I was told was this:

My friend is an ex-LEO. A woman he knows has a son who was in Desert Storm, and brought back this AK. His mother was worried that he was about to go "Postal", so she took it from him, and gave it to my friend to sell and get rid of it. I can't verify it, it's just what I was told.

Glad it's out of the poor fella's hands. Maybe it is a selective fire. Doesn't matter, I can't afford it anyhow. Oh well.

Slim

WmBSmithII · 10-04-2007, 07:29 PM

I thought they stopped allowing war trophies?

**einheit 13** · 10-04-2007, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WmBSmithII

I thought they stopped allowing war trophies?

They did for almost all guns.....I call BS on that one, big time.....

**Ed Ely** · 10-04-2007, 08:09 PM

War trophies were stopped in 1985.

Sounds like a very illegal possession.
I would run the other way as fast as
I could. Do not touch!

Ed

blefferd · 10-04-2007, 09:50 PM

i call bs on you buddies story lol prolly a freaking variant he is trying to pass as a ruskie, or a maaddi

now ive seen Norincos running for that price well close to it 700-800 bones

10-04-2007, 10:57 AM	#1
Automatic Slim XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 183	Russian AK Aguy I know has a Russian AK, 7.62, for sale at $850. He claims it is in pristine condition, only been fired a few times. It comes with one "8 round" mag, and a case. I'm thinking he wants to much. What do you AK guys think?

10-04-2007, 11:06 AM	#2
Brickboy240 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 9,301	First of all, all Russian AK-47s were select fire rifles. This means they're considered Class 3 by the ATF and one has to go through background checks, pay a tax and jump through hoops before you can actually own a Russian AK-47. A true Russian AK-47 would probably be a several thousand dollar item. Now, even if you did all the ATF legwork, at 850 bucks, a Russkie select fire AK would be an absolute steal...but I doubt seriously this is what he has. If he owns a real Russian AK-47 and does not have the permit and paid the tax or registered with the ATF...run...thats completely illegal. The standard magazine for a Russian AK holds 30 rounds. I don't think they used any lower capacity mags. Are you sure that what he has isn't a Russian SKS with a 10-rd fixed magazine? If so, its a great rifle (I have one), but even pristine ones will set you back 300-350 bucks on its best day. Try to get a little more info...I really doubt its a true Russian/Soviet AK...but who knows? - Brickboy240 __________________ The top 25% of wage earners in America pay 86% of all federal income taxes collected. (according to 2007 IRS website data) Es mejor morir a pie que vivir arrodillado Volvo...the Swedish Brick!

10-04-2007, 11:22 AM	#3
Old School XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,630	Best ask him for a few pics of the rifle and the markings. Post them here for the team to review. OS __________________ Visit www.pistolgear.com for all of your XD needs!

10-04-2007, 06:23 PM	#5
einheit 13 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia, C.S.A. Posts: 5,682	Actually, Saigas are Russian AKs. A small batch of Type 1 AKs came to this country in the mid 60s. They had milled receivers and the third hole was welded up. A few Russian kits came here too, the same time German MPi-AK-47s came here..... Brickboy is right though....even if its a russian kit gun, its not worth the money unless Ted Marshall built it and the receiver..... __________________ Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, the third time is enemy action “It is the lack of will power, and not the lack of arms which render us incapable of offering any serious resistance.” Last edited by einheit 13; 10-04-2007 at 06:27 PM.

10-04-2007, 07:29 PM	#7
WmBSmithII XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 207	I thought they stopped allowing war trophies? __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum.

10-04-2007, 07:04 PM	#6
Automatic Slim XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 183	The story that I was told was this: My friend is an ex-LEO. A woman he knows has a son who was in Desert Storm, and brought back this AK. His mother was worried that he was about to go "Postal", so she took it from him, and gave it to my friend to sell and get rid of it. I can't verify it, it's just what I was told. Glad it's out of the poor fella's hands. Maybe it is a selective fire. Doesn't matter, I can't afford it anyhow. Oh well. Slim

10-04-2007, 08:09 PM	#9
Ed Ely XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: 37.65N -84.76W (Elev. 932 ft) Posts: 7,665 Blog Entries: 1	War trophies were stopped in 1985. Sounds like a very illegal possession. I would run the other way as fast as I could. Do not touch! Ed

10-04-2007, 09:50 PM	#10
blefferd XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 1,455	i call bs on you buddies story lol prolly a freaking variant he is trying to pass as a ruskie, or a maaddi now ive seen Norincos running for that price well close to it 700-800 bones __________________ SA XD 45GAP S&W 642 38SPL Glock 19 9mm Winchester Model 70 .308 Benelli Nova 12g Ruger 10/22 German K98 8MM New England Firearms Pardner 20g Norinco SKS 7.62x39 Polish TanTal 5.45x39 East German Markarov 9x18

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