Wilson Combat "Super Grade" 1911 Pistols: Worth the pricetag??!? - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

Uncle Giggles · 08-31-2007, 11:35 PM

Holy cow!

Wilson Combat Tactical Super Grade - $3885.00 MSRP
Wilson Combat Tactical Super Grade Compact - $3885.00 MSRP
Wilson Combat Classic Super Grade Compact - $3995.00 MSRP

Link: http://www.wilsoncombat.com/index_super.htm

I'll be direct:
First Question: Quite simply, are these 1911's worth the almost-4,000-dollar pricetag? I mean seriously, that's how much I put down on my $26,000 car! I could have purchased about 4 stock .223cal. M4 Carbine's OR 4-6 Underfolding stock AK-47's with milled receivers and poly/fiberglass furniture.... OR I could have one of either of those rifles and at least at least $3,000 worth of ammo for either! That's a lot of friggin' ammo!

Second Question: Will the Wilson Combat 1911's shoot better than Sig's? I have a LOT, and I mean A LOT of respect for Sig Arms. The Sig 226 X-Five in either 9mm or .40 Cal with a 2.2lb trigger pull is guaranteed to shoot less-than 1" groups @ 25 yards, and less-than 2" groups @ 50 yards with 14-19-round (9mm-.40cal) mags... and I used to think that the $2,600.00 MSRP pricetag was unreasonable........

Link: http://www.sigarms.com/Products/Show...8&productid=88

So the final question is: Is the $4,000 MSRP pricetag of the Wilson Combat 'Super Grade' 1911 pistols justified? I mean, if I actually had $4,000 to blow on a pistol, would the WC Super Grade be the right choice? Is it really that accurate? Is it really that reliable?

Thanks in advance!

sloopy70 · 09-01-2007, 12:02 AM

I think theyre a little high priced, but it is a Wilson... And for the sigs... as far as theyre new 1911 GSR Revolution goes... and also Customer service... I'm not impressed... My dad bought a BRAND NEW GSR, and in less than 2,000 rounds the slide and breech was cracked and the Extractor ripped off... not to mention it would misfeed at least twice in every mag (novaks, Chip mccormicks, and Sig mags) after paying to have the pistol shipped in 3 times (around $180 bucks i think) they finally told us that the pistol couldn't be fixed, and sent another one... its ran fine so far, but for 1200 bucks it never should have fallen apart in the first place...

I_Route · 09-01-2007, 12:25 AM

Get a Les Baer. Less $$ and an excellent pistol. I own one and do not regret it one bit. It was way less than $4k too...

Even a S&W 1911PD would be better value than a $4k Wilson IMHO...

leeindy · 09-01-2007, 01:14 AM

wilsons are worth the money

Badshot · 09-01-2007, 06:46 AM

Get a custom gun built and take the extra and snag another EBR and a ton of ammo for both. Christ that's way too much damn money for a 1911. Yeah Wilson makes a good gun, but so do many others and you seriously could have a custom 1911 built, tons of customization and love put into the build and have a unique gun for WELL under that absurd cost.

I've heard about the GSR issues and while I'll put my ugly stock P220 toe to toe with any fricken .45 at twice it's cost, I'm not sure I would touch the GSR.

ichy_trigger · 09-01-2007, 06:54 AM

I had a custom 2011 hand built for myself and it was over $1000.00 less than that. There is no way I would pay $4000.00 for a Wilson. Contact a reputable smith and have him build you a one of a kind gun for that much or buy a high end 1911 from STI.

Chayak · 09-01-2007, 07:19 AM

I have a Wilson though it's a custom CQB and not a supergrade. Their customer service is top notch and the warranty is hard to beat. I know one individual that wasn't happy and they gave him a full refund on his custom pistol after he returned it of course. If you're military or LE they'll give you a nice discount as well

**jnclement** · 09-01-2007, 02:41 PM

Bill Wilson won't let the XD shoot in SSP. How could you possibly own one of his guns?

GaryTx · 09-01-2007, 02:48 PM

It's called free market enterprise...it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. If you think it's too costly, then move on and buy something else. Wilson Combat will continue to sell all they make without you.

retired · 09-01-2007, 03:31 PM

Hilton Yam (a Downey leo) has made a name for himself with handcrafted 1911 45ACP. He has a waiting list tho and IIRC, he is less than Wilson.

Yost is another well known and recognized gunsmith and I believe he is also less.

I just offer those to give you a couple of other names.

08-31-2007, 11:35 PM	#1
Uncle Giggles XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 549	Wilson Combat "Super Grade" 1911 Pistols: Worth the pricetag??!? Holy cow! Wilson Combat Tactical Super Grade - $3885.00 MSRP Wilson Combat Tactical Super Grade Compact - $3885.00 MSRP Wilson Combat Classic Super Grade Compact - $3995.00 MSRP Link: http://www.wilsoncombat.com/index_super.htm I'll be direct: First Question: Quite simply, are these 1911's worth the almost-4,000-dollar pricetag? I mean seriously, that's how much I put down on my $26,000 car! I could have purchased about 4 stock .223cal. M4 Carbine's OR 4-6 Underfolding stock AK-47's with milled receivers and poly/fiberglass furniture.... OR I could have one of either of those rifles and at least at least $3,000 worth of ammo for either! That's a lot of friggin' ammo! Second Question: Will the Wilson Combat 1911's shoot better than Sig's? I have a LOT, and I mean A LOT of respect for Sig Arms. The Sig 226 X-Five in either 9mm or .40 Cal with a 2.2lb trigger pull is guaranteed to shoot less-than 1" groups @ 25 yards, and less-than 2" groups @ 50 yards with 14-19-round (9mm-.40cal) mags... and I used to think that the $2,600.00 MSRP pricetag was unreasonable........ Link: http://www.sigarms.com/Products/Show...8&productid=88 So the final question is: Is the $4,000 MSRP pricetag of the Wilson Combat 'Super Grade' 1911 pistols justified? I mean, if I actually had $4,000 to blow on a pistol, would the WC Super Grade be the right choice? Is it really that accurate? Is it really that reliable? Thanks in advance! Last edited by Uncle Giggles; 08-31-2007 at 11:38 PM.

09-01-2007, 12:02 AM	#2
sloopy70 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southwest Louisiana Posts: 1,123	I think theyre a little high priced, but it is a Wilson... And for the sigs... as far as theyre new 1911 GSR Revolution goes... and also Customer service... I'm not impressed... My dad bought a BRAND NEW GSR, and in less than 2,000 rounds the slide and breech was cracked and the Extractor ripped off... not to mention it would misfeed at least twice in every mag (novaks, Chip mccormicks, and Sig mags) after paying to have the pistol shipped in 3 times (around $180 bucks i think) they finally told us that the pistol couldn't be fixed, and sent another one... its ran fine so far, but for 1200 bucks it never should have fallen apart in the first place... __________________ L. J. Joshlin USPSA Range Officer (R.O.) USPSA #A58364 Buckmark UDX Plus Springfield XD-9 10,500 rounds failure free Ithica 12Ga. Ultralight - Gold Trigger Edition Piney Woods Action Shooters sloopy70653@yahoo.com

09-01-2007, 12:25 AM	#3
I_Route XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Merrimack, NH Posts: 851	Get a Les Baer. Less $$ and an excellent pistol. I own one and do not regret it one bit. It was way less than $4k too... Even a S&W 1911PD would be better value than a $4k Wilson IMHO... __________________ Later, Jeff If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a soldier.

09-01-2007, 01:14 AM	#4
leeindy XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: montana Posts: 2,892	wilsons are worth the money __________________ USAF F-15 Attack Control Specialist / Range Officer / Defensive Pistol Instructor "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity" Sigmund Freud Anchorage Practical Shooters Club aka ANPRACS ANPRACS Match Videos click here and here USPSA # A-58756 IDPA # A28338 Co-Founder of the OFFICIAL XDtalk Competition League Another good gun forum http://www.nationalgunforum.com

09-01-2007, 06:46 AM	#5
Badshot XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,433	Get a custom gun built and take the extra and snag another EBR and a ton of ammo for both. Christ that's way too much damn money for a 1911. Yeah Wilson makes a good gun, but so do many others and you seriously could have a custom 1911 built, tons of customization and love put into the build and have a unique gun for WELL under that absurd cost. I've heard about the GSR issues and while I'll put my ugly stock P220 toe to toe with any fricken .45 at twice it's cost, I'm not sure I would touch the GSR. __________________ --------------------- Stupidity should should be painful! On AR15's: Learn to use your Iron Sights before you go adding all that extra crap on your gun!

09-01-2007, 06:54 AM	#6
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,525	I had a custom 2011 hand built for myself and it was over $1000.00 less than that. There is no way I would pay $4000.00 for a Wilson. Contact a reputable smith and have him build you a one of a kind gun for that much or buy a high end 1911 from STI. __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

09-01-2007, 07:19 AM	#7
Chayak XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: TX Posts: 112	I have a Wilson though it's a custom CQB and not a supergrade. Their customer service is top notch and the warranty is hard to beat. I know one individual that wasn't happy and they gave him a full refund on his custom pistol after he returned it of course. If you're military or LE they'll give you a nice discount as well __________________ "Nobody loves peace more than a soldier does, because he´s the one who suffers in flesh and bone the horrors of war" "A Soldier pays for land by the inch with blood that a diplomat will give away by the mile without breaking a sweat." Last edited by Chayak; 09-01-2007 at 07:24 AM.

09-01-2007, 02:41 PM	#8
jnclement XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 2,492	Bill Wilson won't let the XD shoot in SSP. How could you possibly own one of his guns? __________________ Contrary to what sells magazines, not all of us are, or want to be SpecOps, SEAL, Recon, Delta, CQB, Ninja, firearm-knife-tactical-death-touch instructors.

09-01-2007, 02:48 PM	#9
GaryTx XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,103	It's called free market enterprise...it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. If you think it's too costly, then move on and buy something else. Wilson Combat will continue to sell all they make without you. __________________ "I have tried to live my life so that my family would love me and my friends respect me. The others can do whatever the hell they please." ~John Wayne

09-01-2007, 03:31 PM	#10
retired XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: S. Calif. Posts: 5,404	Hilton Yam (a Downey leo) has made a name for himself with handcrafted 1911 45ACP. He has a waiting list tho and IIRC, he is less than Wilson. Yost is another well known and recognized gunsmith and I believe he is also less. I just offer those to give you a couple of other names.

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