I shot the M&P today...

[Old School]

Follow today's match, a gentleman allowed me to shoot two mags of 40SW through his M&P. At first, I was like, "Hey, this feels nice in the hands." Then I pulled the trigger and yelped, "Holy Crap! That is one long and heavy trigger."

The gun shot and ran fine. The trigger was too long and heavy for me, but I know that Burwell's trigger job can fix that. I also didn't care for the thin, rounded trigger, as it seems that it would be much easier to jerk the trigger. I guess practice will help there.

Finally, when S&W comes out with the M&P in 9x19 in the long slide, I will get one. I like the gun, but I feel that it does not come close to the overall feel and performance of the XD. Perhaps my mind will change when I am an M&P owner. Doubtful.

OS

[shaner]

same thing i found when i tried one, it was a 9mm and i just wasnt impressed at all,

[aftershock]

I have never tried one....heard someone talking about how the trigger on their's was 7lbs and they said they liked it

[happygunner]

I was in a local firearm store this past week and was looking in a display case at some XDs. This salesman pulled a new S&W M&P .45acp out. He showed me neat way the handgrip can be changed then quickly put it back safe under glass.

He never even asked if I cared to hold it. I had read about it in this Months G&A and the writer said the trigger needed getting used to. What ever that means.

Think I will just stick with my XD-45 service.

[stroker]

Originally Posted by happygunner

I was in a local firearm store this past week and was looking in a display case at some XDs. This salesman pulled a new S&W M&P .45acp out. He showed me neat way the handgrip can be changed then quickly put it back safe under glass.

He never even asked if I cared to hold it. I had read about it in this Months G&A and the writer said the trigger needed getting used to. What ever that means.

Think I will just stick with my XD-45 service.

AMEN BROTHER ,Stay with the one you brought to the dance!

[nikon777]

Meh, your all a bunch of lames.

[Myk9noseknows]

Same deal on my end. M&P has a great feel, very ergonomic. Then I wrapped my index around the trigger. BLEEEHHHHH and Yuk, put the thing down and bought another XD.

[kraigster414]

Originally Posted by Old School

Follow today's match, a gentleman allowed me to shoot two mags of 40SW through his M&P. At first, I was like, "Hey, this feels nice in the hands." Then I pulled the trigger and yelped, "Holy Crap! That is one long and heavy trigger."

The gun shot and ran fine. The trigger was too long and heavy for me, but I know that Burwell's trigger job can fix that. I also didn't care for the thin, rounded trigger, as it seems that it would be much easier to jerk the trigger. I guess practice will help there.

Finally, when S&W comes out with the M&P in 9x19 in the long slide, I will get one. I like the gun, but I feel that it does not come close to the overall feel and performance of the XD. Perhaps my mind will change when I am an M&P owner. Doubtful.

OS

Don't give up on this gun OS. Providing you get one that is reliable - there has been a problem with the mag catch (accelerated wear and mags dropping while shooting) and a few other minor glitches associated with the M&P.

I had 2 M&P's, now have 1 (I kept my .40c, both required trips back to S&W for repairs but now my 40c is doing very well. This is one gun where the trigger really DOES smooth out in time. Mine started out at about 6#. It is now after about 800 rounds down to 5#. That is very impressive. Silky smooth with no grit and a clean break.

Like the XD, the M&P has excellent ergonomics but because of early and unfortunately still exisitng problems with the mag catch, it remains to be seen whether the gun will be a true contender and have an extended shelf life. At this point in time, I believe you have a far better chance of getting a reliable XD right out of the box vs. the M&P (especially the compact models). As for trigger mods, for carry, I would leave the M&P trigger alone! While Dan Burwell does a nice job lightening things up, the result is more pre-travel, something to consider. Some shooters may not like that.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by kraigster414

As for trigger mods, for carry, I would leave the M&P trigger alone! While Dan Burwell does a nice job lightening things up, the result is more pre-travel, something to consider. Some shooters may not like that.

Should I buy a M&P it will be a Game Gun for IDPA SSP. I will get the most work done that I can, that will be legal and reliable. For now, the M&P trigger would cause too much unnecessary muzzle movement because of the weight. I would be better off shooting a Glock than a M&P with a stock trigger.

I do hope that the M&P sticks around. I have some doubts, but it will come down to marketing and the incentives S&W offers to LEOs in order for them to adopt the gun for duty.

OS

[kraigster414]

Originally Posted by Old School

Should I buy a M&P it will be a Game Gun for IDPA SSP. I will get the most work done that I can, that will be legal and reliable. For now, the M&P trigger would cause too much unnecessary muzzle movement because of the weight. I would be better off shooting a Glock than a M&P with a stock trigger.

I do hope that the M&P sticks around. I have some doubts, but it will come down to marketing and the incentives S&W offers to LEOs in order for them to adopt the gun for duty.

OS

Marketing has a lot to do with it but if the perception among the general shooting public, is that this is a problem gun, all the marketing in the world is not going to help. As yet, the bugs have yet to be worked out of the M&P particularly the compacts. Time will tell. I attended a LE trade show this week and spoke to the S&W folks. They are hoping beyond hope that they can land a big LE contract. That could be the turning point but in order to do so, the M&P really has to shine in the trials. Frankly, I don't think there was sufficient testing of the M&P (emphasis on the compacts) before they hit the street and it may be a case where S&W just has too many models, too many designs, and cannot devote sufficient time to putting the new intros through the paces. With the M&P the hope was to go toe to toe with the Glock and the XD (same price point). I don't think they are quite there yet. Having said that, S&W's customer service is excellent and they really do try and make things right.