Robinson Arms XCR Light 5.56

[BMFOTP]

I have been researching ARs and came across some information pertaining to this weapon. I want to know if anyone knows anything about this weapon or has any experience with this weapon. What I am asking is this weapon worth the money?

[younggun22]

its a solid weapons platform and wouldnt hesitate to defend my life with it

[eric_t12]

dont know about worth the money, but i've seen some videos of it and it looks as stable or moreso than the M4... flings the rounds way far forward away from the user...

looks cool and i'd love to try one out myself... EXPENSIVE!

[Corey G]

Its been mentioned on here a bit in the last month or so. If I had the spare funds I would defaintly have one.

[DanTheEldest]

From what I've been able to figure out (doing a little research myself), it's kind of a mish-mash of the best parts of three different designs all combined into one rifle: the tough and reliable action of the AK, the adjustable gas system of an FAL, and the ergonomics of the AR. The reviews (critics and owners) have all been pretty positive; the only negatives people have commented on are (and this is not from personal experience, so take them with a grain of salt):

1. Doesn't come standard with sights (cost extra)
2. Production is fairly slow, so you could be forced to wait a while
3. It's a bit on the pricey side of things

With a full outfit of optics and accessories, you're looking at about $2k, which is comparable to a high-end tricked-out AR. Is it worth it? I dunno, but I'm willing to keep an open mind.

[Badshot]

The one that I've handled was not shabby, a bit heavier than a stock M4. but not as bad as a fully railed M4 .. Adjustable gas system.. I dunno know what that would be valuable for, but OK, an option is an option ya know?

For the price, it's a value in the piston world, just isn't standard enough to accept all of the AR options out there. Kinda like the SIG 556's... supposedly great guns, just not enough after market.

[BMFOTP]

Thanks everyone for your input into the XCR. After doing more research I think I will wait and see what more people have to say about the weapon. I just dont want to spend 2K on a weapon that doesnt have the backing necessary for the long haul.

[gunnie 12]

I have been researching this rifle for over 9-months and this is what I came up with:


"The AR15 can be improved, but the piston isn't the answer. It never has been, and never will be, and despite what HK says the 416 isn’t a great step forward. Why? Because the problem with the AR15 was never failure due to fouling. Ask anyone on this forum if their AR15 has jammed because it was "dirty". It simply doesn’t happen all that often and is pretty damn rare, so when you are paying for a piston AR15 you are really getting a marginal, borderline lateral, improvement in reliability that will not benefit you unless under EXTREME conditions. Say you need to unload 8,000 rounds non-stop, and that simply doesn’t happen, not to a cop, or a civilian or a soldier. Hell soldiers tend to carry like 300 rounds on average. Ask yourself, is your AR15 going to jam in 300 rounds, or 400 rounds or even 1000 rounds as a result of fouling. I doubt it, so what are HK, POF and LWRC really offering.. Is the piston going to keep sand out and be able to deal with what sand sneaks in? Probably not since the guts of the piston AR15’s is nearly the same as direct gas AR15’s

Real improvements to reliably would address the AR15 where it legitimately needs upgrading: the operating cycle

Feeding, Firing, Extracting and Ejecting. The XCR operating cycle is superior to the AR15 without question, and that is a huge reason I prefer my XCR. An example is the XCR's ejector which is 100% immune to fouling or debris or Sand or whatever. Why? Because it is just a block of metal. Compare that to the AR15's spring loaded ejector which the HK416 inherited.

If you look past the hype and marketing material it is pretty clear piston AR15’s are fixing a non-problem, or at the very least failing to address more significant issues which would be more beneficial to shooters.

The XCR on the other hand bends over backwards to fix every area where the AR15 operating cycle is weak, and throws in an AK47 action and piston for good measure.

What they DID improve was several things:

It's a piston gun, which means it doesn't "poop in its own mouth", as I've heard the AR15 described. It doesn't run gas, carbon and heat back into its action.


It breaks down for routine cleaning something like an AK, the guts slide out the back when you open it up.


The bolt drops off the carrier, no small parts to lose.


The bolt is oversized and stronger than the AR bolt.


The extractor is markedly larger than the AR extractor.


It has a mechanical ejector, something like a Mauser in principle, which can't freeze inside the bolt face like the AR15's plunger ejector can.


The bolt & carrier are much easier to clean, with no carbon to scrape off.


The action runs cooler, which means less stress on the bolt and other related parts.


The action runs much cleaner, which means, besides being easier to clean, it runs much longer between cleaning sessions if it has to.


The gas system has four settings to cover a wide range of ammo, including one setting for suppressor use.


With the gas action being adjustable, even a shorter 16-inch barrel doesn't slam the action parts as hard as an AR 16-incher does, which again translates to less stress on them.


The barrels are easily user interchangeable.


The receiver is longer, and the entire top is a long and solid Picatinny rail. No two-piece rail for accessories, which can involve some wobble.


Two side rails & one bottom rail are integral to the receiver, and machined parallel to the bore.


The charging handle is forward on the left side of the receiver, where it can be accessed quickly for malfunctions while maintaining a shooting stance (for right-handers), without either dismounting the gun briefly or slapping yourself in the face.


The bolt lock/release is ambidextrous and located low in front of the trigger guard where it can be operated with either hand or either the thumb of the hand inserting a mag or the trigger finger as the support hand re-acquires a shooting position on the fore-end.


The folding stock is solid, very well designed, and provides a friction adjustment screw to hold it folded and a wear-adjustment screw to adjust for wobble as the stock hinge wears. Robinson offers an adjustable length slider/folder for the gun as an option.


Magazine seats higher for improved straight-line feeding.


Safety lever rotates 60 degrees instead of 90 from Safe to Fire."



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[bigun]

The weakest link with the AR platform has always been the magazine, this was true with the original waffle patern 20 rounders as it is today with the govt issue 30 rounders. H&K and Magpul have done a great job in correcting these issues. The XCR looks like a solid platform that has integrated alot of the best features from the best battle rifles of all time but only time will tell if they got it right. The main problem is the use of the poorly designed AR mags and its price. If it catches on before they ban them it might be a solid investment if not it will at least be a solid rifle.

[einheit 13]

Originally Posted by bigun

The weakest link with the AR platform has always been the magazine, this was true with the original waffle patern 20 rounders as it is today with the govt issue 30 rounders. H&K and Magpul have done a great job in correcting these issues. The XCR looks like a solid platform that has integrated alot of the best features from the best battle rifles of all time but only time will tell if they got it right. The main problem is the use of the poorly designed AR mags and its price. If it catches on before they ban them it might be a solid investment if not it will at least be a solid rifle.

No, the ARs problem is direct gas system, too many parts, and the calibre (actually just the case design). The mag issue should be nil in XCR...$1300 isn't a bad price...but then again most of you would scoff at a $900 AK, till you compared it to a $500 one...