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ichy_trigger · 07-18-2007, 04:57 PM

Just catching the end of a show on the Discovery channel that highlights the efforts of Colt to produce a gun that can only be fired with the person wearing the coded watch.

IMO... what if your batteries or electronics fail?

WmBSmithII · 07-18-2007, 06:24 PM

better hope you dont need to be shooting anyone soon.

tec · 07-18-2007, 06:27 PM

self winding watch that generates power for the transmitter???????

cid_ayrbourne · 07-19-2007, 06:42 AM

I've seen that same show on History channel a number of times. Colt's said they won't deploy the weapon until they've solved all foreseeable problems, including the battery dying in the midst of a fight.

One thing they may consider is using the kinetic motion watch design to also power the transmitter. We'll see.

aiformula · 07-19-2007, 07:44 AM

won't work for me, I hate wearing watches

bscman · 07-19-2007, 08:21 AM

Yup, I thought the idea was kind of lame.

When he demonstrated how it worked, he was wearing the watch on his right hand. With his left hand he took the gun, pointed it at himself, and tried to pull the trigger--thus demonstrating the gun will only fire in close proximity to the watch.

Problem? I think so... There are times when you'll have to fire weak hand un-supported! What if your dominant hand gets injured? Wear two watches? What if you need a real watch that actually tells time?

It wouldn't work for me either. I hate wearing watches. A few summers ago I broke my hand because of a watch.
Mountain biking accident and the watch was driven into to top of my hand as it got pinned between my hand and arm and the wrist twisted back. Had I not been wearing a watch, at worst I would've had a sprained joint.

Thanks, but no thanks.

ichy_trigger · 07-19-2007, 09:25 AM

I can see some people getting hurt over a failure. I think Sig Arms toyed with a concept years ago.

Badshot · 07-19-2007, 11:11 AM

The solution is going to end up being Biometric in one fashion or another. Not accessory's and secondary control devices. Most of the stuff that makes it to TV is at least 6 months to a year old. Moore's law trumps the value of most of those shows.

Considering the advancements in stabilizing electronics to handle the shock of a weapons fire and recoil, battery size and power evolutions.. it's coming and it will either be a print reader on the trigger face or front strap. If you think about it the reader only needs to be powered long enough to initialize an unlock and lock up, so the power requirements drop significantly.

It's gonna be cool one of these days!

**AZXD** · 07-19-2007, 11:17 AM

Cool idea, but never gonna be practical for other than civilian use. The military probably already has industrial versions of EMP/HERF/Shock Pulse Generators. Therefore it is never gonna be a military thing, but might become a civilian novelty item that law enforcement can control

An electronic lock to satisfy the brady bunch. That is my view.

lobster_roboto · 07-19-2007, 11:18 AM

I would think that RFID implants would be better...and neater too.

07-18-2007, 04:57 PM	#1
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,525	Smart guns on Discovery channel Just catching the end of a show on the Discovery channel that highlights the efforts of Colt to produce a gun that can only be fired with the person wearing the coded watch. IMO... what if your batteries or electronics fail? __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

07-18-2007, 06:27 PM	#3
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07-19-2007, 06:42 AM	#4
cid_ayrbourne XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Space Coast, FL Posts: 543	I've seen that same show on History channel a number of times. Colt's said they won't deploy the weapon until they've solved all foreseeable problems, including the battery dying in the midst of a fight. One thing they may consider is using the kinetic motion watch design to also power the transmitter. We'll see. __________________ This message has been brought to you by Absolute Total Insanity (ATI). And remember, if it's not Absoulte Total Insanity, it's probably just a nervous breakdown. -ATI

07-19-2007, 07:44 AM	#5
aiformula XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sw ohio Posts: 3,087	won't work for me, I hate wearing watches __________________ Tony Obama '08... change we can bereave in. Guns are like orgasms.......you just can't have enough good ones!

07-19-2007, 09:25 AM	#7
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,525	I can see some people getting hurt over a failure. I think Sig Arms toyed with a concept years ago. __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

07-18-2007, 06:24 PM	#2
WmBSmithII XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 207	better hope you dont need to be shooting anyone soon.

07-19-2007, 08:21 AM	#6
bscman XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 142	Yup, I thought the idea was kind of lame. When he demonstrated how it worked, he was wearing the watch on his right hand. With his left hand he took the gun, pointed it at himself, and tried to pull the trigger--thus demonstrating the gun will only fire in close proximity to the watch. Problem? I think so... There are times when you'll have to fire weak hand un-supported! What if your dominant hand gets injured? Wear two watches? What if you need a real watch that actually tells time? It wouldn't work for me either. I hate wearing watches. A few summers ago I broke my hand because of a watch. Mountain biking accident and the watch was driven into to top of my hand as it got pinned between my hand and arm and the wrist twisted back. Had I not been wearing a watch, at worst I would've had a sprained joint. Thanks, but no thanks.

07-19-2007, 11:11 AM	#8
Badshot XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,433	The solution is going to end up being Biometric in one fashion or another. Not accessory's and secondary control devices. Most of the stuff that makes it to TV is at least 6 months to a year old. Moore's law trumps the value of most of those shows. Considering the advancements in stabilizing electronics to handle the shock of a weapons fire and recoil, battery size and power evolutions.. it's coming and it will either be a print reader on the trigger face or front strap. If you think about it the reader only needs to be powered long enough to initialize an unlock and lock up, so the power requirements drop significantly. It's gonna be cool one of these days! __________________ --------------------- Stupidity should should be painful! On AR15's: Learn to use your Iron Sights before you go adding all that extra crap on your gun!

07-19-2007, 11:17 AM	#9
AZXD XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valley of the GUN Posts: 14,614	Cool idea, but never gonna be practical for other than civilian use. The military probably already has industrial versions of EMP/HERF/Shock Pulse Generators. Therefore it is never gonna be a military thing, but might become a civilian novelty item that law enforcement can control An electronic lock to satisfy the brady bunch. That is my view. __________________ SCOTUS judge appointments ... Will last much longer than Obama or McCain. Who do you want selecting people who have the ability to support or remove individual rights ?? AZXD At least I don't need any Viagra just to get myself to a point where I can do the Palin librarian fantasy Veep thing. KEVWYO There are a bunch of you that need to hit the head and grab your jar of vaseline and just get it over with. KEVWYO

07-19-2007, 11:18 AM	#10
lobster_roboto XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,626	I would think that RFID implants would be better...and neater too. __________________ "Let's go straight to the source and ban crime"

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