HELP SKS Question

[AZXD]

You guys have me worried.

I intended to ask if $300 for a supposedly 1971 manufactured Russian SKS w/case and a couple of hi-cap magazines w/ammo was a good price. I am thinking it is. Then I get on here to ask and see this thread. The guy who has it, picked it up off someone else who needed money and decided he doesn't really like it as he shoots cowboy reinactment stuff, so he offered it to me.

Good price?
Where can I find out (link) if it has the legal stuff already?
No receipts for legal stuff, what should I do, replace it with the same stuff, just to get receipts?

I am totally new to an SKS, I have seen picturesand doen a little reading, but I've never even had one in my hands before.

Thanks in advance
What to do, what to do

[Old School]

I cannot comments if $300 is a good price for your SKS, but I just purchased a Norinco with all matching numbers and a bayo for $150. As for aftermarket parts, you should contact TAPCO directly, to see what you need in order to stay legal. I would also find a SKS forum to see what they say. Information is your friend.


OS

[einheit 13]

Russia didn't make SKS's in 1971, they stopped production in the '50s. Unless it takes real AK mags......leave it alone. If it takes AK its an SKS-D or an SKS-M model from China.

Could really use some pics or marking info from the receiver, then it can be identified properly.

An SKS has 14 parts identified by the ATF, you must change at least 4 to stay legal. Stock,


Here are the relevant parts in an SKS Carbine:
1.Receiver
2.Barrel
3.Bolt
4.Bolt carrier
5.Gas piston
6.Trigger housing
7.Trigger
8.Hammer
9.Sear
10.Disconnector (see below)
11.Stock
12.Handguard
13.Magazine body
14.Follower
Note: This list has been confirmed by ATF. For more information, check out the discussion of 18 USC § 922(r) parts count on the Survivor's SKS Boards web site.

Using commercially available parts, you can replace the following parts:
1)Replace the stock with aftermarket US-made version.
2)Replace the handguard with aftermarket US-made version.
3)Replace the gas piston with a US-made version from Tapco (#SKS6602), SKSMan or SKSParts (#SKS-034).
4)Replace the magazine with a 100% US-made magazine, including the magazine body, follower and floorplate. (Replaces two imported parts.)
5)On Yugoslavian Type 59/66 Carbines: Remove the grenade launcher and replace it with a US-made muzzle brake (foreign muzzle attachments are counted). See the FAQ’s on removing the Yugoslavian Type M59/66 grenade launcher for more info.

On a typical SKS Carbine, you will need to replace four parts. On Yugoslavian Type 59/66 Rifle, you will need to replace five parts.
These US-made parts are sometimes known as “compliance parts”, since they are used to ensure that the resulting rifle is “compliant” with Title 18 USC § 922(r).

[JIffyLube]

Clearly, it is not a '71 Russian. More information is required.

[AZXD]

Thanks guys,
I haven't seen it yet, so don't have a lot of information to go by, but I said Russian, actually he said he thinks it was made in the Ukraine (couldn't remember exactly, but that area of the world), would that possibly be right?

Regardless of origin, if it looks real good, is an SKS, comes with the stuff described, would it maybe be worth $300?

[thejoe]

AZXD,
I'm just not sure if I'd pay $300 for an SKS, even with all that stuff on it. If it was an SKS-D or M model, heck yeah. You'll know if it accepts the AK mags.

If it's a regular old SKS, I'd offer the guy a little less. Someone else pointed out that you can buy an SKS for $150 with all the goodies possible and the total cost from tapco to replace all the parts necessary is $109 (if you go with a black T6 stock and only 1 magazine). You do the math.

Sure, buying a modded SKS is easier because you don't have to do the work to order the parts and wait, then put them in (which can be a real B****, let me tell ya'!) but I think it would be very worth it to save the money and gain the experience. Working on firearms is fun, right?

So, as long as it's not a D or M model, offer him $230. If he doesn't like that, skip it and get your own. You'll be happier (and you'll know that everything is legal).

Now, as for the legality of this SKS, you shouldn't worry too much. The T6 stock is manufactured here in the US so it's 922r compliant. If the SKS you're looking at has one, you've got 3 compliant parts. You will buy more 20 rd. mags from TAPCO (or wherever) in the future, so that'll give you 6 compliant parts. My "source" says you'll need 7, so once the firearm is in your possession you can check to see if the gas piston or op rod has been replaced. If so, you're golden. Make sense?

Sorry for the long post.

joe

PS--don't worry about it too much. It's not like the ATF is going to knock on your door if you buy it and it happens to be non-compliant. You'll just need to make sure to get it compliant ASAP, which is NOT hard to do. And I forgot: Tapco stamps ALL their aftermarket parts with "Made in the USA" or "USA" so you can verify and prove to anyone asking for verification that way. Just take pictures of all the parts and any serial numbers and keep it in a file so they don't have to take your firearm apart if they want to see some proof.

[einheit 13]

Originally Posted by AZXD

Thanks guys,
I haven't seen it yet, so don't have a lot of information to go by, but I said Russian, actually he said he thinks it was made in the Ukraine (couldn't remember exactly, but that area of the world), would that possibly be right?

Regardless of origin, if it looks real good, is an SKS, comes with the stuff described, would it maybe be worth $300?

It may be Romanian.....Russia, E Germany, Romania, Hungry, Yugoslavia, China, N Korea, and Poland are the only countries to produce/modify the SKS.

If it is indeed Romanian, Albanian, E German , it is well worth the 3 bills.
Or if it was some of the very few stamped sheet metal SKSs or .223 SKSs than its a big time steal.

[AZXD]

OK, just got off the phone with the owner, he read off the info so I could look it up as we spoke. It looks like next thursday (we live on opposite ends of town) I will be the owner of a Chinese made 1977 vintage 7.62x39 D model with as he says a 20" barrel.
The deal includes 2-50 round AK mags and 1-30 round mag. Plus a hard case and 100 rounds of ammo for $250.

[einheit 13]

Originally Posted by AZXD

OK, just got off the phone with the owner, he read off the info so I could look it up as we spoke. It looks like next thursday (we live on opposite ends of town) I will be the owner of a Chinese made 1977 vintage 7.62x39 D model with as he says a 20" barrel.
The deal includes 2-50 round AK mags and 1-30 round mag. Plus a hard case and 100 rounds of ammo for $250.

You haven't bought it yet??? Run and get it....very good deal! Then sell it to me. I'll give ya 3 Mosins for it....

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by einheit 13

You haven't bought it yet??? Run and get it....very good deal! Then sell it to me. I'll give ya 3 Mosins for it....

Thanks man,
That's what I was hoping to hear, but I think I'll keep it