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**DanTheEldest** · 06-10-2007, 05:32 PM

On Saturday Mrs. theEldest and I drove a pleasant 85 minutes or so up the road to Prescott, AZ to make a personal visit to J&G Sales with the intent of looking at 91/30's and SKS's to start filling out my current area of interest--Russian rifles. After looking and pestering the sales staff with questions I finally decided to pass up the Finnish M-39 I had my eye on for a couple others:

The first is a Tula-marked 1934 M-N hex-receiver 91/30. There's still quite a bit of cosmo to remove and the wood needs just a little help (especially the foregrip), but the metal bits are nice and the bore is one of the brightest I've ever seen....(these pictures don't do them justice)

Like I mentioned above, I was also interested in an SKS on this trip. After perusing some Yugo's which were nice enough without anything really blowing my socks off, I ran across this beauty that came in on trade from a previous collector.....

....a 1954 Russian Tula-marked SKS.

I would have been happy with a Yugo, but it's the finest-looking model I've held in my hands and I was absolutely smitten. I don't think it's seen too many rounds because even the moving parts around the bolt/receiver don't have wear marks on them. A few nicks on the stock from 50+ years of life, but the overall condition is fantastic.

Add in another 900 rounds of my new favorite Bulgarian 54R (light-ball this time), but leaving out the Nagant revolver (I was already a bit over budget), it turned out to be a terrific daytrip.

P.S--I also have to add a big +42 for the guys at J&G, especially Ronny. They took all the time I needed to explain things, brought me multiple examples of each rifle to fondle and choose between, and there was zero "are you still here?" gun-store attitude--a great experience.

LUVMYSIGP225 · 06-10-2007, 05:53 PM

Nice!!! Love that SKS. I have a few Mosins. I need a Russian SKS.

**DanTheEldest** · 06-10-2007, 05:58 PM

Thanks. Due to my limited budget I'm going more for one of each type (1 SKS, 1 AK, etc), but the Mosins are cheap enough I can justifiy one of each production variant. I've got an M44, so with the 91/30 in the fold, that leaves.....an M38, a Finn M-39, an M91, and about a half dozen others.

And that's not even counting the Nagant revolver, the Makarovs, the......

**beardman2** · 06-10-2007, 07:05 PM

Are they still as anal about their paperwork? Last time I was at a gun show I picked up a 91/30 (couple years ago) and I swear they were the best I've ever seen when it comes to their paperwork. They probably threw away half of them for people abbreviating instead of spelling it out etc.

**DanTheEldest** · 06-10-2007, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beardman2

Are they still as anal about their paperwork? Last time I was at a gun show I picked up a 91/30 (couple years ago) and I swear they were the best I've ever seen when it comes to their paperwork. They probably threw away half of them for people abbreviating instead of spelling it out etc.

Yup--he told me before I started filling out the forms not to use any abbreviations; said it avoided problems down the road. Being the agreeable sort, I didn't abbreviate anything, and one phone call later I'm out the door with my new war clubs.

And I think I've talked myself into a C&R license--I'm getting addicted to this old iron.

Brickboy240 · 06-11-2007, 08:46 AM

Nice rifles!

I have a 1952 Tula that was unissued when I bought it back in 1989 (for 75 dollars). The Russian and Chinese military SKSs are the best shooters of the bunch - be glad you passed the Yugo for the Russkie.

- Brickboy240

**hobocircus** · 06-11-2007, 10:01 AM

Good stuff! you're on your way!

Prices?

How much was the Finnish M-39?
(it's one of my favorites of ALL time)

**DanTheEldest** · 06-11-2007, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobocircus

Good stuff! you're on your way!

Prices?

How much was the Finnish M-39?
(it's one of my favorites of ALL time)

The M-39's (he said they had about six of them) were running about $379 if I remember right, and were in "excellent+" condition, at least, to my untrained eye. I'm quite certain they were armory refurb's, because one of the examples had WW2-dated everything, but matched to a later-dated barrel. He said they also had some with 1940's hardware all the way around. Very nice stocks and bores.

The hex-receiver Tula M-N came home for the princely sum of $89.

The Russian SKS was at about $379 (the same as the M-39's), which is a bit high for an SKS, but compared to the conditions of the Yugo's I looked at ($229 for "excellent"), the jump in the quality of the rifle for the Tula was worth the extra $150. The prices on mil-surps have been steadily climbing (and aren't going to be coming down anytime soon, if ever), so I consider it money well-spent to get a nice example before they go any higher.

**magnumize** · 06-11-2007, 02:17 PM

Love the looks of the Russian SKS's.A friend of mine bought a Russian SKS about a year ago at our local shop,he paid $300 OTD.He still hasnt shot it,but dayum its purrty.LOL hes single with no kids,Im divorced with 2 kids...he always has a little more gun fund than I do Grrrr........

**magnumize** · 06-11-2007, 02:19 PM

Of BTW Ive had my Norinco SKS for about 15 years now,It was $80 back then heheheee.

06-10-2007, 05:32 PM	#1
DanTheEldest XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,367	A pair of Russians followed me home On Saturday Mrs. theEldest and I drove a pleasant 85 minutes or so up the road to Prescott, AZ to make a personal visit to J&G Sales with the intent of looking at 91/30's and SKS's to start filling out my current area of interest--Russian rifles. After looking and pestering the sales staff with questions I finally decided to pass up the Finnish M-39 I had my eye on for a couple others: The first is a Tula-marked 1934 M-N hex-receiver 91/30. There's still quite a bit of cosmo to remove and the wood needs just a little help (especially the foregrip), but the metal bits are nice and the bore is one of the brightest I've ever seen....(these pictures don't do them justice) Like I mentioned above, I was also interested in an SKS on this trip. After perusing some Yugo's which were nice enough without anything really blowing my socks off, I ran across this beauty that came in on trade from a previous collector..... ....a 1954 Russian Tula-marked SKS. I would have been happy with a Yugo, but it's the finest-looking model I've held in my hands and I was absolutely smitten. I don't think it's seen too many rounds because even the moving parts around the bolt/receiver don't have wear marks on them. A few nicks on the stock from 50+ years of life, but the overall condition is fantastic. Add in another 900 rounds of my new favorite Bulgarian 54R (light-ball this time), but leaving out the Nagant revolver (I was already a bit over budget), it turned out to be a terrific daytrip. P.S--I also have to add a big +42 for the guys at J&G, especially Ronny. They took all the time I needed to explain things, brought me multiple examples of each rifle to fondle and choose between, and there was zero "are you still here?" gun-store attitude--a great experience. __________________ To make mass murder palatable to the public, one must first strip the victims of their inherent humanity. First were the native Americans ("savages"), then the black slaves (only "partly human"), then the Jews and gypsies in Hitler's Europe ("parasites on society"), and now America's unborn (also "not fully human"). Save the Americans--end abortion now. Insights and documentation on our nation's Christian heritage: www.WallBuilders.com Last edited by DanTheEldest; 06-10-2007 at 05:36 PM.

06-10-2007, 05:53 PM	#2
LUVMYSIGP225 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Crackron, Ohio Posts: 5,574	Nice!!! Love that SKS. I have a few Mosins. I need a Russian SKS. __________________ "The hippies got high, and the hippies are dead. I went hunting, and I am still Ted." - The Nuge, 2006.

06-10-2007, 05:58 PM	#3
DanTheEldest XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,367	Thanks. Due to my limited budget I'm going more for one of each type (1 SKS, 1 AK, etc), but the Mosins are cheap enough I can justifiy one of each production variant. I've got an M44, so with the 91/30 in the fold, that leaves.....an M38, a Finn M-39, an M91, and about a half dozen others. And that's not even counting the Nagant revolver, the Makarovs, the...... __________________ To make mass murder palatable to the public, one must first strip the victims of their inherent humanity. First were the native Americans ("savages"), then the black slaves (only "partly human"), then the Jews and gypsies in Hitler's Europe ("parasites on society"), and now America's unborn (also "not fully human"). Save the Americans--end abortion now. Insights and documentation on our nation's Christian heritage: www.WallBuilders.com

06-10-2007, 07:05 PM	#4
beardman2 XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,950	Are they still as anal about their paperwork? Last time I was at a gun show I picked up a 91/30 (couple years ago) and I swear they were the best I've ever seen when it comes to their paperwork. They probably threw away half of them for people abbreviating instead of spelling it out etc. __________________ - He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself. ~Thomas Paine I will not be involved with the dreams of angry men. Founding Documents Freedom isn't free: http://www.anysoldier.com

06-11-2007, 08:46 AM	#6
Brickboy240 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 9,264	Nice rifles! I have a 1952 Tula that was unissued when I bought it back in 1989 (for 75 dollars). The Russian and Chinese military SKSs are the best shooters of the bunch - be glad you passed the Yugo for the Russkie. - Brickboy240 __________________ The top 25% of wage earners in America pay 86% of all federal income taxes collected. (according to 2007 IRS website data) Es mejor morir a pie que vivir arrodillado Volvo...the Swedish Brick!

06-11-2007, 10:01 AM	#7
hobocircus XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Nevada Desert on a Dry Lakebed. Living in a trailer with thunderstorms looming in the distance. Posts: 3,343	Good stuff! you're on your way! Prices? How much was the Finnish M-39? (it's one of my favorites of ALL time) __________________ Ported V-10 XD9 Service SOLD Tactical XD9 in Basic Black I like to shoot Wolf ammo out of my Hi-Point pistol and rifle.

06-11-2007, 02:17 PM	#9
magnumize XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ky Posts: 2,410	Love the looks of the Russian SKS's.A friend of mine bought a Russian SKS about a year ago at our local shop,he paid $300 OTD.He still hasnt shot it,but dayum its purrty.LOL hes single with no kids,Im divorced with 2 kids...he always has a little more gun fund than I do Grrrr........ __________________ Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take away everything you have..The course of history shows that as Government grows,liberty decreases...Thomas Jefferson The enemy teaches their kids how to handle RPGs and Ak-47s...our schools suspend kids for drawing a picture of a gun and teach Earth Day and putting a Trojan on a banana. Whats wrong with this picture? Brickboy240

06-11-2007, 02:19 PM	#10
magnumize XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ky Posts: 2,410	Of BTW Ive had my Norinco SKS for about 15 years now,It was $80 back then heheheee. __________________ Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take away everything you have..The course of history shows that as Government grows,liberty decreases...Thomas Jefferson The enemy teaches their kids how to handle RPGs and Ak-47s...our schools suspend kids for drawing a picture of a gun and teach Earth Day and putting a Trojan on a banana. Whats wrong with this picture? Brickboy240

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