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IndianaJones · 04-19-2007, 09:26 PM

The Air Force is asking gun makers for their input on the design of the next handgun for airmen.
The service issued a memo on April 16 laying out its demands. The service wants a weapon with a baseline caliber of .45, though gun is required to be reconfigurable for multiple bullet sizes. The ideal weapon would have a service life exceeding 25,000 rounds and has a grip that can be tailored for any user, according to the memo.
In addition, the memo set out specifications for an accompanying silencer. The device must be able to reduce discharge noise to 140 decibels at least, weigh no more than 10 ounces and have a service life of 3,000 to 10,000 rounds.
The required monthly production rate is 7,500 handguns, starting six months after the forthcoming contract is awarded, the document said.
The information brought in by the memo will be used to create a request for proposals at a yet unannounced time.
Gen. T. Michael Moseley, Air Force chief of staff, first introduced the idea of new Air Force handguns at a House Appropriations Committee hearing in February. An unspecified portion of the $7 billion Air Force supplemental budget request is set aside for handgun acquisition.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/0...quest_070419w/

leeindy · 04-19-2007, 09:36 PM

call me crazy but i think the new H&K 45 is gonna take all the branches

ichy_trigger · 04-20-2007, 05:13 AM

Thats not much of a service life (25,000 rounds).

Several of the gun companies ramped up for the Army when it was looking and some great accomplishments were made. This is going to be interesting.

limblessbiff · 04-20-2007, 08:31 AM

sig 220 combat would be nice for them

nickb · 04-20-2007, 08:32 AM

10 oz?

Palmguy · 04-20-2007, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nickb

10 oz?

The silencer.

Agreed on the HK45...that'd be cool.

**Badshot** · 04-20-2007, 08:52 AM

hmm I'm not an HK geek, but last I checked there were a couple of short comings in the HK45's that would rule it out. Grip resizing for one, interchangeability for the caliber would be another I would think. I'll readily admit that I'm not certain on that but again I'm not an HK geek so they might have something in that arena that I just haven't paid attention to.

Honestly this looks right up the S&W M&P line's alley. Hmmmm

**eric_t12** · 04-20-2007, 09:01 AM

With a lucrative government contract possibility it seems easy enough to make some changes that would make ti compliant.

However when i read the baseline .45 cal bullet i was surprised! lol, then i read the multi-caliber system and i was even more surprised!

GO AF!

Palmguy · 04-20-2007, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Badshot

hmm I'm not an HK geek, but last I checked there were a couple of short comings in the HK45's that would rule it out. Grip resizing for one, interchangeability for the caliber would be another I would think. I'll readily admit that I'm not certain on that but again I'm not an HK geek so they might have something in that arena that I just haven't paid attention to.

Honestly this looks right up the S&W M&P line's alley. Hmmmm

The HK45 has interchangeable backstraps, a la P2000. Really no different than the M&P except that the M&P is easier to swap backstraps on. As far as caliber interchangeability, I'm interested to find out just how much the HK45 and P30 have in common...

nickb · 04-20-2007, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palmguy

The silencer.

Agreed on the HK45...that'd be cool.

Sorry, I saw that after I posted & then failed in an attempt to delete my hasty comment.

04-19-2007, 09:26 PM	#1
IndianaJones XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Howard County, Indiana Posts: 780	Air Force lays out specs for its next handgun The Air Force is asking gun makers for their input on the design of the next handgun for airmen. The service issued a memo on April 16 laying out its demands. The service wants a weapon with a baseline caliber of .45, though gun is required to be reconfigurable for multiple bullet sizes. The ideal weapon would have a service life exceeding 25,000 rounds and has a grip that can be tailored for any user, according to the memo. In addition, the memo set out specifications for an accompanying silencer. The device must be able to reduce discharge noise to 140 decibels at least, weigh no more than 10 ounces and have a service life of 3,000 to 10,000 rounds. The required monthly production rate is 7,500 handguns, starting six months after the forthcoming contract is awarded, the document said. The information brought in by the memo will be used to create a request for proposals at a yet unannounced time. Gen. T. Michael Moseley, Air Force chief of staff, first introduced the idea of new Air Force handguns at a House Appropriations Committee hearing in February. An unspecified portion of the $7 billion Air Force supplemental budget request is set aside for handgun acquisition. http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/0...quest_070419w/ __________________ http://video.google.com/url?docid=-1...BGtholoYBTeguw

04-19-2007, 09:36 PM	#2
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04-20-2007, 05:13 AM	#3
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,417	Thats not much of a service life (25,000 rounds). Several of the gun companies ramped up for the Army when it was looking and some great accomplishments were made. This is going to be interesting. __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

04-20-2007, 08:32 AM	#5
nickb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,187	10 oz? __________________ No PM sent..... But the average human can travel 21 feet in just about one second.

04-20-2007, 08:52 AM	#7
Badshot XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,430	hmm I'm not an HK geek, but last I checked there were a couple of short comings in the HK45's that would rule it out. Grip resizing for one, interchangeability for the caliber would be another I would think. I'll readily admit that I'm not certain on that but again I'm not an HK geek so they might have something in that arena that I just haven't paid attention to. Honestly this looks right up the S&W M&P line's alley. Hmmmm __________________ --------------------- Stupidity should should be painful! On AR15's: Learn to use your Iron Sights before you go adding all that extra crap on your gun!

04-20-2007, 08:31 AM	#4
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04-20-2007, 09:01 AM	#8
eric_t12 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SD Posts: 3,639	With a lucrative government contract possibility it seems easy enough to make some changes that would make ti compliant. However when i read the baseline .45 cal bullet i was surprised! lol, then i read the multi-caliber system and i was even more surprised! GO AF! __________________ FBI: Gun Owners are Potential Terrorists Our Economic Future: GAO 21st Century Challenges The Police Have No Duty To Protect You VFW Life Member GOA Life Member

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