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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Proposed Gun Ban Need Everyones Help
THE MOST SWEEPING GUN BAN EVER INTRODUCED IN CONGRESS;
McCarthy Bill Bans Millions More Guns Than The Clinton Gun Ban On Feb. 14, 2007, Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) introduced H.R. 1022, a bill with the stated purpose, "to reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes." McCarthy's verbiage warrants explanation. Presumably, what she means by "assault weapons ban" is the Clinton Gun Ban of 1994. Congress allowed the ban to expire in 2004 for multiple reasons, including the fact that federal, state and local law enforcement agency studies showed that guns affected by the ban had been used in only a small percentage of crime, before and after the ban was imposed. With the nation's murder rate 43% lower than in 1991, and the re-legalized guns still used in only a small percentage of crime, reauthorizing the Clinton Gun Ban would be objectionable enough. But McCarthy's "other purposes" would make matters even worse. H.R. 1022 would ban every gun banned by the Clinton ban, plus millions more guns, including: - Every gun made to comply with the Clinton ban. (The Clinton ban dictated the kinds of grips, stocks and attachments new guns could have. Manufacturers modified new guns to the Clinton requirements. H.R. 1022 would ban the modified guns too.) - Guns exempted by the Clinton ban. (Ruger Mini-14s and -30s and Ranch Rifles; .30 cal. carbines; and fixed-magazine, semi-automatic, center-fire rifles that hold more than 10 rounds.) - All semi-automatic shotguns. (E.g., Remington, Winchester, Beretta and Benelli, used for hunting, sport shooting, and self-defense. H.R. 1022 would ban them because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip," and would also ban their main component, called the "receiver.") - All detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles-including, for example, the ubiquitous Ruger 10/22 .22 rimfire-because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip." - Target shooting rifles. (E.g., the three centerfire rifles most popular for marksmanship competitions: the Colt AR-15, the Springfield M1A and the M1 "Garand.") - Any semi-automatic shotgun or rifle an Attorney General one day claims isn't "sporting," even though the constitutions of the U.S. and 44 states, and the laws of all 50 states, recognize the right to use guns for defense. - 65 named guns (the Clinton law banned 19 by name); semi-auto fixed-magazine pistols of over 10 rounds capacity; and frames, receivers and parts used to repair or refurbish guns. H.R. 1022 would also ban the importation of magazines exempted by the Clinton ban, ban the sale of a legally-owned "assault weapon" with a magazine of over 10 rounds capacity, and begin backdoor registration of guns, by requiring private sales of banned guns, frames, receivers and parts to be conducted through licensed dealers. Finally, whereas the Clinton Gun Ban was imposed for a 10-year trial period, H.R. 1022 would be a permanent ban. Last edited by fortyfive4life; 02-25-2007 at 06:46 PM. |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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This is a big one guys. This is such a wide ban They will ban all guns if this one flies. Please write your reps. some info on this Here http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=549436
and a great unified effort starting here we can nominate a delegate to be the liason to this effort http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showth...4&page=1&pp=30 Please do everything you can. We all love our Second Amendment rights. |
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This needs to be sent to EVERY hunter in this country. If this doesn't get them motivated to fight gun bans, nothing will. This is an outright attack on the majority of our guns. No longer can we continue to only talk amongst ourselves about this. We have to disucss this stuff with co-workers, with neighbors. Spread the word as much as you can. And make dang sure that people realize the future freedom of our country is at risk if we allow govt to take away all useful defensive weapons.
Those people you know who value freedom of speech so much, talk to them! They must be reminded what it was, that won our country our freedom. It was not the act of traveling thousands of miles across an ocean, to a new land far away from our oppressive England king. IT WAS THE GUNS WE OWNED! Without the guns our founding fathers and those who came along with them, we would not be a free country. We would still be under English control. Just because we are free from English control, does not guarantee our freedom. Our very own govt, without us having guns, stands a high chance of forcing us into the same situation our founding fathers once faced. Total control and oppression. No rights like we have had all these years. Remember, our military keeps us free from foreign invaders.. BUT WE GUN OWNERS KEEP US FREE FROM OUR GOVT! If you do not get that message out to people, they will never understand. The day that we have single shot weapons, is the day our freedom is at the highest risk it has ever been since our country was founded. We no longer are a force to be reckoned with. Our govt will no longer have a healthy fear of the peopleee. Remember, when you the hand that feeds you, knows it may be bitten.. it feeds carefully. Take away the teeth of the mouth you feed, and you no longer need to fear being bitten. You may feed whatever you want down that throat. |
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Letter will be faxed tomorrow.
Thanks for the heads up.
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"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin America's Third Parties --- Duping the Foolish and Idealistic since 1832. PA Roll Call .................... My Blog |
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XDTalk 100 Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
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If you go to www.congress.org and type in your zip code, you'll get your representative and senators, and can easily send an email about this issue.
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XD9 Sub carried 2:00 Walking Cane (for style) "We have Law Pollution. Legislators continue to create and pass laws until they pile up and up and up like some giant garbage pile of obscure code, creating a legal minefield all should fear to tread." |
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XDTalk 100 Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
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I hate to say this, but I think most of our gun control legislation has to do with letting women vote (and run for office). Most women simply value security over freedom and will glady vote away the latter if they think they'll get more of the former.
I could just imagine these soccer moms sitting around a table talking about "legislating this", "regulating that", and "restricting this other thing", etc... They're just too devoid of logic to realize that if you stack laws up and up and up, you're really enslaving yourself to government.
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XD9 Sub carried 2:00 Walking Cane (for style) "We have Law Pollution. Legislators continue to create and pass laws until they pile up and up and up like some giant garbage pile of obscure code, creating a legal minefield all should fear to tread." |
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Sent 3 e-mails tonight. I feel so good now, that I'm going to pat myself on the back.
Thanks for the heads up. I've seen this thing mentioned about 10 times, and your post pushed me over the top. Reading some of the linked pages didn't hurt. That NRA-ILA page is awesome. |
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Letters will be in the mail this week.
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XDTalk Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Thanks to all who have already sent a letter. Please make sure that you not only send a letter you also email and call. They don't always read letters or emails right away. It will expand the number of hits they are getting about one topic.
Plus if you follow the second link above we are hoping to mount a massive effort through cooperation of all boards gun related. Please read the entire thread. We should elect a delegate from XDTalk to be the liason. this person eill then go to gunsnet tell them that he/she is the XDtalk rep and he will be directed to the right place. If you are a memebr of another board please pass along the word. They made a big mistake this time trying to ban so many guns. It is linking up people who previously weren't. So keep going guys this is just the beginning. |
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XDTalk Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Thanks to all who have already sent a letter. Please make sure that you not only send a letter you also email and call. They don't always read letters or emails right away. It will expand the number of hits they are getting about one topic.
Plus if you follow the second link above we are hoping to mount a massive effort through cooperation of all boards gun related. Please read the entire thread. We should elect a delegate from XDTalk to be the liason. this person eill then go to gunsnet tell them that he/she is the XDtalk rep and he will be directed to the right place. If you are a memebr of another board please pass along the word. They made a big mistake this time trying to ban so many guns. It is linking up people who previously weren't. So keep going guys this is just the beginning. |
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