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Goldbeard31 · 11-21-2006, 09:44 PM

I tried using the search function and saw some people mention these but no said if they had tried them and liked or disliked them, so sorry if i missed a thread.

http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/...4306/sesent/00

http://www.lapolicegear.com/suep3sodeear.html

so my question is. Anyone tried them? how'd they work?

seems like a great idea.

thanks for the feedback

Ajcrash · 11-21-2006, 11:07 PM

I asked the same thing awhile back, never got much FB on it; but some good info otherwise. They were $20 then.... for 10 bucks though I'd consider giving them a shot. But I have to many freebies to consider buying ear protection for now.

Heathen-Yak · 11-22-2006, 12:02 AM

keeping in mind they give you a NINE db reduction in sound, most foamies give you a 28-32db reduction. I wouldn't do it for shooting, maybe a .22 rifle but nothing else.

for about 30 bucks you can pick up a set of plugs from Dicks or Walmart that are basically cheap hearing aids that cut off at 85db. I picked up a set last week, I'll let you guys know how well they work when I go hunting this weekend.

terrydoc · 11-22-2006, 12:38 PM

Gday
I use them down here in Australia they work well even indoors where guy's are using .38super compensated race guns.

Terry

jednp · 11-22-2006, 06:02 PM

They say they won't let noise in louder than 80 db. They start out at a 9 db noise rating, but as noise gets louder the rating goes up. I have some, and I like them. I don't like them for indoors though. I don't like just regular foam plugs indoors either, I have to double up. But outdoors, they seem fine to me. The louder the noise is, it creates more heat when it enters the chamber, making them work better. It says right on the site that noises won't get above 80 db.

jednp · 11-22-2006, 06:03 PM

http://www.surefire.com/pdfs/EP3_tech_copy.pdf

That's a link stating that they won't allow over 80 db.

Polymerhead · 11-23-2006, 07:44 AM

Baffle-type plugs are at a disadvantage during Noise Reduction Rating tests. Somehow it's an average for the reduction of all sound levels, and since they don't reduce much volume at all at speech and background levels, their NRR is a lot smaller. Other baffle-type designs like the Peltor dual-sided plugs and the baffled Radian plugs have similar NRR ratings of between 4 and 10. It's not at all representative of how they actually perform on the range.

jednp · 11-23-2006, 08:44 AM

I have a pair of ear plugs from walmart that are made by silencio. They use the baffling in them, which is something that I don't think the surefire ones use. I've used these every time me and my dad have gone out shooting when I'm back home, and they work great. I have a bad problem with my ears ringing non stop, they've been doing that for months. So I make sure that I wear ear protection that works, to help prevent worse damage to my ears. If I expose myself to loud music, or other loud noises then my ears ring so bad for several days that I can't even sleep. Yet these ear plugs that I got from walmart, the silencio ones, which are back with the shooting stuff and are blue, they work perfectly. My ears aren't affected by the noise from guns at all.

Again, I wouldn't want to use them at an indoor range. But outdoors in the open, they work just fine. I haven't had a problem with using them yet. I'd actually rather use these than the surefire ones to be honest. I believe radians makes something like this as well, they are red in color. I think they are the exact same thing, just sold under a different company name. Anyway here's the ones I use, and like I said radians has the same thing and they are red. I believe I've seen these at bass pro and another place which I can't remember for sure. If you have a cabelas near you, they also make a product just like this which are sort of a tan/flesh type color.

dtek · 11-23-2006, 09:20 AM

Ok, it says no sounds over 80db will pass through the filter,
Near total silence - 0 dB
A whisper - 15 dB
Normal conversation - 60 dB
A lawnmower - 90 dB
A car horn - 110 dB
A rock concert or a jet engine - 120 dB
A gunshot - 140 dB

Any sound above 85 dB can cause hearing loss, and the loss is related both to the power of the sound as well as the length of exposure. You know that you are listening to an 85-dB sound if you have to raise your voice to be heard by somebody else. Eight hours of 90-dB sound can cause damage to your ears; any exposure to 140-dB sound causes immediate damage (and causes actual pain).

I would say there safe for shooting, I will give them a try

jednp · 11-23-2006, 09:37 AM

I am going out to shoot here in about 2 hours. I will take both sets of plugs, and I will also bring normal foam plugs rated for 32 db reduction. I will give a report on them when I return. I have tried both at the range, and didn't like them for indoors. But I don't even like just normal foam plugs alone indoors. I have to double up. So this will be an outdoor report, which is where I think these are best to be used.

Another thing to note, the surefire ones are only as good as you get them in your ear. If they aren't in properly, they don't work the best. But I did put them on in my vehicle with the stereo going. I have a db meter and it was at 114 db, and it wasn't hurting my ears at all so they were working good. But I will test them again while shooting, so others know that they are ok or not ok for guns.

11-21-2006, 09:44 PM	#1
Goldbeard31 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7	anyone tried these from surefire?? I tried using the search function and saw some people mention these but no said if they had tried them and liked or disliked them, so sorry if i missed a thread. http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/...4306/sesent/00 http://www.lapolicegear.com/suep3sodeear.html so my question is. Anyone tried them? how'd they work? seems like a great idea. thanks for the feedback __________________ XD sub-compact Doublestar M-4 Ruger 10/22

11-21-2006, 11:07 PM	#2
Ajcrash XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,226	I asked the same thing awhile back, never got much FB on it; but some good info otherwise. They were $20 then.... for 10 bucks though I'd consider giving them a shot. But I have to many freebies to consider buying ear protection for now. __________________ "The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps." Eleanor Roosevelt, 1945

11-23-2006, 07:44 AM	#7
Polymerhead XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: MO, USA Posts: 1,490	Baffle-type plugs are at a disadvantage during Noise Reduction Rating tests. Somehow it's an average for the reduction of all sound levels, and since they don't reduce much volume at all at speech and background levels, their NRR is a lot smaller. Other baffle-type designs like the Peltor dual-sided plugs and the baffled Radian plugs have similar NRR ratings of between 4 and 10. It's not at all representative of how they actually perform on the range. __________________ No alarms and no surprises, please.

11-23-2006, 09:20 AM	#9
dtek XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: CT Posts: 402	Ok, it says no sounds over 80db will pass through the filter, Near total silence - 0 dB A whisper - 15 dB Normal conversation - 60 dB A lawnmower - 90 dB A car horn - 110 dB A rock concert or a jet engine - 120 dB A gunshot - 140 dB Any sound above 85 dB can cause hearing loss, and the loss is related both to the power of the sound as well as the length of exposure. You know that you are listening to an 85-dB sound if you have to raise your voice to be heard by somebody else. Eight hours of 90-dB sound can cause damage to your ears; any exposure to 140-dB sound causes immediate damage (and causes actual pain). I would say there safe for shooting, I will give them a try __________________ Dave "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

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11-22-2006, 12:02 AM	#3
Heathen-Yak XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 497	keeping in mind they give you a NINE db reduction in sound, most foamies give you a 28-32db reduction. I wouldn't do it for shooting, maybe a .22 rifle but nothing else. for about 30 bucks you can pick up a set of plugs from Dicks or Walmart that are basically cheap hearing aids that cut off at 85db. I picked up a set last week, I'll let you guys know how well they work when I go hunting this weekend.

11-22-2006, 12:38 PM	#4
terrydoc XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 51	Gday I use them down here in Australia they work well even indoors where guy's are using .38super compensated race guns. Terry

11-22-2006, 06:02 PM	#5
jednp XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 4,691	They say they won't let noise in louder than 80 db. They start out at a 9 db noise rating, but as noise gets louder the rating goes up. I have some, and I like them. I don't like them for indoors though. I don't like just regular foam plugs indoors either, I have to double up. But outdoors, they seem fine to me. The louder the noise is, it creates more heat when it enters the chamber, making them work better. It says right on the site that noises won't get above 80 db.

11-22-2006, 06:03 PM	#6
jednp XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 4,691	http://www.surefire.com/pdfs/EP3_tech_copy.pdf That's a link stating that they won't allow over 80 db.

11-23-2006, 08:44 AM	#8
jednp XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 4,691	I have a pair of ear plugs from walmart that are made by silencio. They use the baffling in them, which is something that I don't think the surefire ones use. I've used these every time me and my dad have gone out shooting when I'm back home, and they work great. I have a bad problem with my ears ringing non stop, they've been doing that for months. So I make sure that I wear ear protection that works, to help prevent worse damage to my ears. If I expose myself to loud music, or other loud noises then my ears ring so bad for several days that I can't even sleep. Yet these ear plugs that I got from walmart, the silencio ones, which are back with the shooting stuff and are blue, they work perfectly. My ears aren't affected by the noise from guns at all. Again, I wouldn't want to use them at an indoor range. But outdoors in the open, they work just fine. I haven't had a problem with using them yet. I'd actually rather use these than the surefire ones to be honest. I believe radians makes something like this as well, they are red in color. I think they are the exact same thing, just sold under a different company name. Anyway here's the ones I use, and like I said radians has the same thing and they are red. I believe I've seen these at bass pro and another place which I can't remember for sure. If you have a cabelas near you, they also make a product just like this which are sort of a tan/flesh type color.

11-23-2006, 09:37 AM	#10
jednp XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 4,691	I am going out to shoot here in about 2 hours. I will take both sets of plugs, and I will also bring normal foam plugs rated for 32 db reduction. I will give a report on them when I return. I have tried both at the range, and didn't like them for indoors. But I don't even like just normal foam plugs alone indoors. I have to double up. So this will be an outdoor report, which is where I think these are best to be used. Another thing to note, the surefire ones are only as good as you get them in your ear. If they aren't in properly, they don't work the best. But I did put them on in my vehicle with the stereo going. I have a db meter and it was at 114 db, and it wasn't hurting my ears at all so they were working good. But I will test them again while shooting, so others know that they are ok or not ok for guns.