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**jmiahhenry** · 09-11-2006, 06:38 PM

Hello friends do any of you ride or own a Super Bike. I am looking to getting something fast and cool looking probably 1100 or bigger.

What your your recommendations?

Do you have any cool links?

Kent · 09-11-2006, 06:42 PM

Do you have prior experience on a sport bike?

If you do not I would say find a decent used 500cc or less to start on, then go for a 600 bike. You will stay alive longer. Once you are up on your skills get onto a race track for a track day, then you can start to learn.

Kent

sloopy70 · 09-11-2006, 06:58 PM

+1 on that... DO NOT start out on anything larger than a 600... especially if you havent ever ridden a crotch rocket yet... I used to have a 600 Suzuki Katana, its not set up as a race bike like the gixxers or anything but even with that bike I could smoke corvettes and mustang gt's and pretty much any car you line up with, and a 600 will definately scare you very easily, so i'd say yeah stay in the 500/600 range... and the first moment you stop respecting it it will let you know hard... I've lost lotsa skin and I can tell you its not fun at all when your floppin down the pavement...

demon · 09-11-2006, 07:14 PM

+1 on what Kent said. A 1000 or 1100cc sportbike is definately not for a beginner. I ride a 1999 Honda CBR 1100XX and have been riding street bikes for 16 years. Hell, even the newer 600cc sportbikes are dangerous in the hands of a newbie. I don't know your experience level and I'm not trying to hack on you or anything, but if you're not experienced in riding at least 100 horsepower 600's, a 140+ horsepower 180 MPH sportbike isn't where you need to start. If you've been riding smaller bikes and feel like stepping up, then go for it, just be carefull till you get used to them. They definately can bite you when you least expect it moreso than the smaller bikes. The new 1000cc sportbikes weigh about as much as the 600's do with 50+ more horsepower and twice the torque. They can fry the tires coming out of the turns and build speed quicker than your mind can compensate for. They can go from a standing start to 60 mph in 2.8 seconds without getting out of first gear. Most will go down the quarter mile in the low 10 to high 9 second range with a top speed in excess of 175 mph. If you're not used to anything that will have performance anywhere close to these numbers, stay off of them unless you have a death wish.

I'm actually trying to sell mine right now, but have reservations about selling it to someone that is not experienced with sportbikes. It's going on EBAY later this week.
http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22858

mboehlen · 09-11-2006, 07:24 PM

+1 on all comments, its all fun and games until your picking gravel out of your a$$. I now keep my busted helmet next to my door remind me that it is the only thing that kept me alive. Judging by your question, I would think that you are new to the sport bike world. I would recommend a CBR 600 F4. Good overall performance and forgiving to those who make mistakes (which is everyone). Also you can get used ones for rather decent prices. Good luck on your hunt!

darkvibe · 09-11-2006, 07:29 PM

A friend of mine rides an Aprilia RSV mille R and I drool over it. Check it out...

http://www.aprilia.com/modelli/road/modello.asp?id=64

His is a couple years old and they've changed the naming a little. It's got a steering damper and magnesium (i think) wheels from the factory.

edit: and if you're just starting out, I went through the search a while ago and it seems like everyone I asked recommended a kawasaki ninja 500 or EX 500. Same bike, different name i think. They all said slow enough to learn on but fast enough that you won't outgrow it right away.

cnk · 09-11-2006, 08:12 PM

Take the MSF course if you haven't already. Start small. . .i.e. 250/500. Ride for a year or two, then move up. Everyone wants to start on a "cool" bike, but just like with anything else, there's the right way and the wrong way. You wouldn't stick a guy in a jet fighter before he learned how to fly. . .same principle applies with bikes. The learning curve on a smaller bike is also much better then on a larger bike. You'll learn faster and become a better rider because of it.

Novadesigns · 09-11-2006, 08:35 PM

+1,000,000 Definitely, take the MSF course before you do anything else!!!

I would definitely NOT recommend getting a supersport or superbike as your first bike. Get something like a Ninja 500 or thereabouts and ride that for a year until you get used to riding. You'll also save a ton of money on the bike AND on your insurance. See, big powerful sportbike + no riding experience = paying for the bike all over every 2 years. In otherwords you buy a GSX-R1000 for 11k and end up paying 3k-4k a year in insurance.

If you live long enough.

BTW, here's my highly modified SV650S, and its plenty fast and cool-looking. Then again, I've been riding a while now.

Damon · 09-11-2006, 08:37 PM

I agree with everyone else, start on a smaller bike first.

I've been riding sport bikes for 23 years and raced them for over 10 years. The current open class bikes are way too much for a novice to handle.

Damon Mon Wai
1994 Oregon Motorcycle Road Racing Association #1
1994 Washington Motorcycle Road Racing Association #3

**DanTheEldest** · 09-11-2006, 08:44 PM

A couple years back a buddy of mine bought a lightly used Ninja 250 for not much money and had fun even on that. He's got some fire-breathing CBR now, but was always glad he started small. Probably a good idea.

09-11-2006, 07:14 PM	#4
demon XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SE Tennessee Posts: 514	+1 on what Kent said. A 1000 or 1100cc sportbike is definately not for a beginner. I ride a 1999 Honda CBR 1100XX and have been riding street bikes for 16 years. Hell, even the newer 600cc sportbikes are dangerous in the hands of a newbie. I don't know your experience level and I'm not trying to hack on you or anything, but if you're not experienced in riding at least 100 horsepower 600's, a 140+ horsepower 180 MPH sportbike isn't where you need to start. If you've been riding smaller bikes and feel like stepping up, then go for it, just be carefull till you get used to them. They definately can bite you when you least expect it moreso than the smaller bikes. The new 1000cc sportbikes weigh about as much as the 600's do with 50+ more horsepower and twice the torque. They can fry the tires coming out of the turns and build speed quicker than your mind can compensate for. They can go from a standing start to 60 mph in 2.8 seconds without getting out of first gear. Most will go down the quarter mile in the low 10 to high 9 second range with a top speed in excess of 175 mph. If you're not used to anything that will have performance anywhere close to these numbers, stay off of them unless you have a death wish. I'm actually trying to sell mine right now, but have reservations about selling it to someone that is not experienced with sportbikes. It's going on EBAY later this week. http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22858 Last edited by demon : 09-11-2006 at 07:39 PM.

09-11-2006, 07:24 PM	#5
mboehlen XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Carbondale/Naperville IL Posts: 304	+1 on all comments, its all fun and games until your picking gravel out of your a$$. I now keep my busted helmet next to my door remind me that it is the only thing that kept me alive. Judging by your question, I would think that you are new to the sport bike world. I would recommend a CBR 600 F4. Good overall performance and forgiving to those who make mistakes (which is everyone). Also you can get used ones for rather decent prices. Good luck on your hunt! __________________ Doing an ordinary thing, unordinarily well, brings success.

09-11-2006, 07:29 PM	#6
darkvibe XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 744	A friend of mine rides an Aprilia RSV mille R and I drool over it. Check it out... http://www.aprilia.com/modelli/road/modello.asp?id=64 His is a couple years old and they've changed the naming a little. It's got a steering damper and magnesium (i think) wheels from the factory. edit: and if you're just starting out, I went through the search a while ago and it seems like everyone I asked recommended a kawasaki ninja 500 or EX 500. Same bike, different name i think. They all said slow enough to learn on but fast enough that you won't outgrow it right away. Last edited by darkvibe : 09-11-2006 at 07:36 PM.

09-11-2006, 08:35 PM	#8
Novadesigns XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 240	+1,000,000 Definitely, take the MSF course before you do anything else!!! I would definitely NOT recommend getting a supersport or superbike as your first bike. Get something like a Ninja 500 or thereabouts and ride that for a year until you get used to riding. You'll also save a ton of money on the bike AND on your insurance. See, big powerful sportbike + no riding experience = paying for the bike all over every 2 years. In otherwords you buy a GSX-R1000 for 11k and end up paying 3k-4k a year in insurance. If you live long enough. BTW, here's my highly modified SV650S, and its plenty fast and cool-looking. Then again, I've been riding a while now. __________________ Kimber Eclipse Custom II SA XD-45 ACP Rock River Arms Entry Tactical CAR A4 Ruger K10/22T Stainless

09-11-2006, 08:37 PM	#9
Damon XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 354	I agree with everyone else, start on a smaller bike first. I've been riding sport bikes for 23 years and raced them for over 10 years. The current open class bikes are way too much for a novice to handle. Damon Mon Wai 1994 Oregon Motorcycle Road Racing Association #1 1994 Washington Motorcycle Road Racing Association #3 __________________ XD-9 Service TruGlo TFO Sights Don's Guide Rod Canyon Creek Trigger Job Canyon Creek Fusion Slide Finish Firearms Academy of Seattle FAS-2 x2 Graduate Firearms Academy of Seattle FAS-4 x2 Graduate

09-11-2006, 06:38 PM	#1
jmiahhenry XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Central Cali Posts: 333	Sport Bikes Hello friends do any of you ride or own a Super Bike. I am looking to getting something fast and cool looking probably 1100 or bigger. What your your recommendations? Do you have any cool links? __________________ Jeremiah SA-XD 40 two tone, service Shoot to kill not to harm!

09-11-2006, 06:42 PM	#2
Kent XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 2,935	Do you have prior experience on a sport bike? If you do not I would say find a decent used 500cc or less to start on, then go for a 600 bike. You will stay alive longer. Once you are up on your skills get onto a race track for a track day, then you can start to learn. Kent

09-11-2006, 06:58 PM	#3
sloopy70 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southwest Louisiana Posts: 1,093	+1 on that... DO NOT start out on anything larger than a 600... especially if you havent ever ridden a crotch rocket yet... I used to have a 600 Suzuki Katana, its not set up as a race bike like the gixxers or anything but even with that bike I could smoke corvettes and mustang gt's and pretty much any car you line up with, and a 600 will definately scare you very easily, so i'd say yeah stay in the 500/600 range... and the first moment you stop respecting it it will let you know hard... I've lost lotsa skin and I can tell you its not fun at all when your floppin down the pavement...

09-11-2006, 08:12 PM	#7
cnk XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 12	Take the MSF course if you haven't already. Start small. . .i.e. 250/500. Ride for a year or two, then move up. Everyone wants to start on a "cool" bike, but just like with anything else, there's the right way and the wrong way. You wouldn't stick a guy in a jet fighter before he learned how to fly. . .same principle applies with bikes. The learning curve on a smaller bike is also much better then on a larger bike. You'll learn faster and become a better rider because of it.

09-11-2006, 08:44 PM	#10
DanTheEldest XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,282	A couple years back a buddy of mine bought a lightly used Ninja 250 for not much money and had fun even on that. He's got some fire-breathing CBR now, but was always glad he started small. Probably a good idea. __________________ The AK-47: Designed to be field-stripped and used effectively by a half-drunk, half-frozen illiterate conscript who found it buried in Mother Russia's mud after last year's Regiment exercises. SOP: retrieve from ground, pee in action, cycle bolt, go back to work. I cannot and will not recant anything, for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. Here I stand, I can do no other, so help me God. --Martin Luther

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