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attackrott · 05-08-2006, 11:27 AM

http://www.cellular.co.za/phones/gunphone/gun-phone.htm

Anyone know if these would be illegal if you have your CCW.

It was only a matter of time. I have seen pen guns and other concealed guns. Anyway I thought this was interesting.

Sorry if this is a repost, I looked and did not see anything.

dave_in_delaware · 05-08-2006, 11:42 AM

I've only seen the video, not the real "gun" in person.

Snopes says it's true (I guess as a possibility).

But what I don't get is when you watch the video, the barrel is obviously fixed as the antenna, yet they show 4 distinct rounds across the width of the phone. Then they show the gun/phone being fired, and show the casings still in the gun at the end of the video.

HOW do the other 3 rounds get over to the barrel? They all seemed in a fixed (non-movable)state to me. I don't think the phone has a revolving cylinder. So WTF??

As far as having a permit to carry and using something like this, I don't know if these would be legal. Probably NOT, since they are more apt to be considered a terrorist's hidden weapon than an every day "normal" gun for a CCW. I'll stick w/ my REAL XD, not a phone gun "toy." Besides, it's a .22 caliber. I'd want something a little bigger than that.

**jalley** · 05-08-2006, 11:50 AM

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe guns like these are illegal unless you apply for one with the ATF and pay for a tax stamp....something similar to what you have to go through in order to legally own a silencer.

justinbaker · 05-08-2006, 11:52 AM

i just watched the video, that is pretty crazy, its seems pretty dangerous as well. Seems like it would be too easy to reach in your pocket and accidentally press one of the buttons

attackrott · 05-08-2006, 11:57 AM

Ya I would not use one as a CCW gun but I was just wondering, if it would be allowed.

jalley you are probably right about that one.

I think one barrel is in the antenna but I think it is just like 4 pen guns side by side. If you watch the video you can see the smoke move right as each bullet is fired.

creepyrat · 05-08-2006, 05:03 PM

i have seen the pen guns in person but not the cell guns. i bet the cost is through the roof, the pen guns were over 1000 at the time i saw them.

**KingAirDriver** · 05-08-2006, 06:10 PM

During my recurrent training (I'm a pilot- air ambulance) they have us do long, drawn out, pain in the boo-tay, and BORING AS HELL computer training. One of the sections we always have to review is TSA stuff, including all sorts of weird weapons that have been discovered. One of those shown was the cell phone gun (I think it was the exact one shown here). There was some other stuff out there that blew my mind. Kinda makes you think a little bit.

dsglenn · 05-09-2006, 06:48 AM

I think that product along with the video looks like a joke. I can't think of any way that the thing could work the way they show it....

Heathen-Yak · 05-09-2006, 07:08 AM

It does. It's real. I remember seeing it in some FBI weapons screening pdf about a year or two ago. Also a story about them on the news.

glimmer31 · 05-10-2006, 04:14 PM

It seems faked to me. The shells do not index with the antenna to fire. Looked like blanks. The only bullet I know of that could do a 'Z' after being fired is the Carcano that killed Kennedy, (supposedly... we'll never know...) then hit Gov. Connely in the leg and fell out on his gurney. The first firing that is indexed with the antenna/barrel might be true, 2 thru 4 would have to make a turn, right after being fired to go to the barrel. Don't think technology is up to that yet. Now if it had shown each with it's own barrel, blowing off a thin piece of plastic on top of the gun when fired, I would believe that. I don't believe all 4 are fired thru the fake antenna/barrel. I do know there are some strange devices made into firearms out there in the 'spook' world. I belonged to it in my younger years. However, they were all single shot, throwaway, one time use weapons. This is mocked up to look like a reloadable, keepable, multi-shot weapon. Have to see it to believe it.

Sorry, to answer the initial question, like the 'pen gun' it would be looked at by the BATFE and then decided if it could be sold. Probably not, due to the recient terrorist problems, and probably not for the safety reasons stated in the above post. My guess would be no.

05-08-2006, 11:27 AM	#1
attackrott XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 382	Has anyone seen these cell phone guns. http://www.cellular.co.za/phones/gunphone/gun-phone.htm Anyone know if these would be illegal if you have your CCW. It was only a matter of time. I have seen pen guns and other concealed guns. Anyway I thought this was interesting. Sorry if this is a repost, I looked and did not see anything. __________________ “There is only one free country for me to live.”

05-08-2006, 11:42 AM	#2
dave_in_delaware XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 5,983	I've only seen the video, not the real "gun" in person. Snopes says it's true (I guess as a possibility). But what I don't get is when you watch the video, the barrel is obviously fixed as the antenna, yet they show 4 distinct rounds across the width of the phone. Then they show the gun/phone being fired, and show the casings still in the gun at the end of the video. HOW do the other 3 rounds get over to the barrel? They all seemed in a fixed (non-movable)state to me. I don't think the phone has a revolving cylinder. So WTF?? As far as having a permit to carry and using something like this, I don't know if these would be legal. Probably NOT, since they are more apt to be considered a terrorist's hidden weapon than an every day "normal" gun for a CCW. I'll stick w/ my REAL XD, not a phone gun "toy." Besides, it's a .22 caliber. I'd want something a little bigger than that. __________________ Dave Daily carry = XD-9 service in a Blackhawk CQC SERPA holster, a Spyderco Native, and a Streamlight Scorpion. "Everything matters... unless it's antimatter." “A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and State, and for hunting and recreational use.” [Delaware Constitution, Article I, § 20 Right to keep and bear arms]

05-08-2006, 11:50 AM	#3
jalley XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: WV Posts: 1,409	I'm not 100% sure, but I believe guns like these are illegal unless you apply for one with the ATF and pay for a tax stamp....something similar to what you have to go through in order to legally own a silencer. __________________ HS2000 Gen 1, HS2000 Gen 2 sc xd 9mm service xd 45ACP, service xd 9mm tactical xd 45ACP

05-08-2006, 11:57 AM	#5
attackrott XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 382	Ya I would not use one as a CCW gun but I was just wondering, if it would be allowed. jalley you are probably right about that one. I think one barrel is in the antenna but I think it is just like 4 pen guns side by side. If you watch the video you can see the smoke move right as each bullet is fired. __________________ “There is only one free country for me to live.”

05-08-2006, 06:10 PM	#7
KingAirDriver XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: FL230 and KS Posts: 1,334	During my recurrent training (I'm a pilot- air ambulance) they have us do long, drawn out, pain in the boo-tay, and BORING AS HELL computer training. One of the sections we always have to review is TSA stuff, including all sorts of weird weapons that have been discovered. One of those shown was the cell phone gun (I think it was the exact one shown here). There was some other stuff out there that blew my mind. Kinda makes you think a little bit. __________________ "When life's on the line, we're in the air." Freight Dogs - Order of the Sleepless Knights.

05-08-2006, 11:52 AM	#4
justinbaker XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 1,009	i just watched the video, that is pretty crazy, its seems pretty dangerous as well. Seems like it would be too easy to reach in your pocket and accidentally press one of the buttons

05-08-2006, 05:03 PM	#6
creepyrat XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: MI Posts: 296	i have seen the pen guns in person but not the cell guns. i bet the cost is through the roof, the pen guns were over 1000 at the time i saw them.

05-09-2006, 06:48 AM	#8
dsglenn XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 180	I think that product along with the video looks like a joke. I can't think of any way that the thing could work the way they show it.... __________________ dsglenn True tolerance is not a total lack of judgment. It's knowing what should be tolerated - and refusing to tolerate that which shouldn't. --Chuck Colson

05-09-2006, 07:08 AM	#9
Heathen-Yak XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 497	It does. It's real. I remember seeing it in some FBI weapons screening pdf about a year or two ago. Also a story about them on the news.

05-10-2006, 04:14 PM	#10
glimmer31 XDTalk Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 41	Cell phone gun? It seems faked to me. The shells do not index with the antenna to fire. Looked like blanks. The only bullet I know of that could do a 'Z' after being fired is the Carcano that killed Kennedy, (supposedly... we'll never know...) then hit Gov. Connely in the leg and fell out on his gurney. The first firing that is indexed with the antenna/barrel might be true, 2 thru 4 would have to make a turn, right after being fired to go to the barrel. Don't think technology is up to that yet. Now if it had shown each with it's own barrel, blowing off a thin piece of plastic on top of the gun when fired, I would believe that. I don't believe all 4 are fired thru the fake antenna/barrel. I do know there are some strange devices made into firearms out there in the 'spook' world. I belonged to it in my younger years. However, they were all single shot, throwaway, one time use weapons. This is mocked up to look like a reloadable, keepable, multi-shot weapon. Have to see it to believe it. Sorry, to answer the initial question, like the 'pen gun' it would be looked at by the BATFE and then decided if it could be sold. Probably not, due to the recient terrorist problems, and probably not for the safety reasons stated in the above post. My guess would be no. __________________ Advice is free... Good Advice is Priceless... XD-9 SC / X2 Light-Laser XD-9 Tactical / OD Green A Gun Shop - All the toys, mine, all mine! Not to mention my collection! 3 Jack Russell Terriers A Lovely wife of 29 years (who shoots well!)

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