AR pistol as a defense weapon?

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

I prefer a pattern of projectiles in an enclosed area, and in a high-stress situation.

To the OP ... I have a PLR and I would not want to shoot the thing inside.
It's freak'n LOUD with hearing protection.

[Joeywhat]

Originally Posted by human

What did you not get? maybe i missed something

Why is an AR only suitable for shooting at large groups of people?

5.56 and .223 don't penetrate drywall and 2x4's as well as people think...it's NOT going through your house, then the three neighbors next to you.

It's easy to shoot, and if it's short enough (and an AR pistol will be) the length from shoulder to muzzle will be shorter then holding a pistol. So what's the downside again? I guess it'll FUBAR your hearing a bit...but oh well.

[ForTehNguyen]

Originally Posted by tialloydragon

it really depends on where you live. When you talk about using a rifle round for home defense, you are opening yourself up to the possibility of shooting through walls into adjacent rooms and outside the house. A little risky if you have loved ones in the house.

handgun calibers penetrate more in drywall than 55gr 5.56mm does

[Brickboy240]

Do you value your hearing?

I have stood next to others firing AR pistols at the range (wearing muffs and plugs) enough to know that I don't want to be anywhere near one when it goes off without hearing protection.

- brickboy240

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Joeywhat

Why is an AR only suitable for shooting at large groups of people?

5.56 and .223 don't penetrate drywall and 2x4's as well as people think...it's NOT going through your house, then the three neighbors next to you.

It's easy to shoot, and if it's short enough (and an AR pistol will be) the length from shoulder to muzzle will be shorter then holding a pistol. So what's the downside again? I guess it'll FUBAR your hearing a bit...but oh well.

A bit

Have you ever shot a short barrel AR ??
My Mosin Nagant is quiet compared to my PLR.

I'd choose just about anything over a SB AR for exactly that reason.
Now if it had a sliencer on it ... I'd absolutely grab the PLR, but without it, I'd expect my hearing would be FUBAR a lot.

[yocan]

Originally Posted by DevJames

using the SBR ammo available, it'll hit almost as hard as an M4 would.

might be a touch overkill depending on where you live.

theres a good post. Personally for home defense I don't think you'd want SBR ammo..... normal ammo still hits at 500 ft/lbs or so, which is harder than a pistol

Originally Posted by tialloydragon

it really depends on where you live. When you talk about using a rifle round for home defense, you are opening yourself up to the possibility of shooting through walls into adjacent rooms and outside the house. A little risky if you have loved ones in the house.

Originally Posted by human

That would be very stupid!!!!! .223 for home defense? Only if its against 20 people!

and two posts by people that have no idea what they are talking about. The ATF switched to light 556 rounds out of M4s because they penetrate LESS than an MP5 in 9mm. They also stop the threat faster. Do I think its better than a shotgun? Nope, but better than everything else? Yes.

Originally Posted by AZXD

To the OP ... I have a PLR and I would not want to shoot the thing inside.
It's freak'n LOUD with hearing protection.

Great point, I love my ears, we considered eloping at one time.

Originally Posted by Joeywhat

Why is an AR only suitable for shooting at large groups of people?

5.56 and .223 don't penetrate drywall and 2x4's as well as people think...it's NOT going through your house, then the three neighbors next to you.

It's easy to shoot, and if it's short enough (and an AR pistol will be) the length from shoulder to muzzle will be shorter then holding a pistol. So what's the downside again? I guess it'll FUBAR your hearing a bit...but oh well.

Pretty sure my friends that shot their M4s inside hard wall houses in Iraq still have about 60% of their hearing left. If I was going to do this, I'd literally have muffs on the buttstock JIC I have more than 2 seconds. (they wouldn't be on my head when the cops showed up though)

[Frenchy]

Why would anyone actually want an exotic weapon like this for the task of home defense. There's no logic here.
KISS!!

[Joeywhat]

An AR is exotic? Pistol AR is easy to use, very ergonomic, and in many cases a BETTER home defense choice then shotgun or pistol because of the decreased barrier penetration.

Slugs will go through a lot before stopping...as will most buckshot loads. Even handgun calibers will go through more then 5.56 in many cases.

I do keep muffs by my bed...they amplify ambient sound as well so could be useful when trying to hear someone sneaking around.

[thelongone13]

Originally Posted by Joeywhat

Why is an AR only suitable for shooting at large groups of people?

5.56 and .223 don't penetrate drywall and 2x4's as well as people think...it's NOT going through your house, then the three neighbors next to you.

It's easy to shoot, and if it's short enough (and an AR pistol will be) the length from shoulder to muzzle will be shorter then holding a pistol. So what's the downside again? I guess it'll FUBAR your hearing a bit...but oh well.

No, but a 203 grain 7.62x54r soft point (what I use for HD sadly enough) does.... Maybe I do need a smaller caliber rifle.... Alright! Excuse to buy an AR!!!!

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by Joeywhat

An AR is exotic? Pistol AR is easy to use, very ergonomic, and in many cases a BETTER home defense choice then shotgun or pistol because of the decreased barrier penetration.

Slugs will go through a lot before stopping...as will most buckshot loads. Even handgun calibers will go through more then 5.56 in many cases.

I do keep muffs by my bed...they amplify ambient sound as well so could be useful when trying to hear someone sneaking around.

Compared to traditional forms of home defense...Yes!