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New M&P 9, not all good to report...

This is a discussion on New M&P 9, not all good to report... within the Non-XD Handguns forums, part of the Other Handgun Talk category; I could see firearms going that direction, with [tactical] auto slide release on the new mag. I'm just not there yet. Plus it doesn't do ...


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Old 09-30-2012, 11:47 AM   #21
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I could see firearms going that direction, with [tactical] auto slide release on the new mag. I'm just not there yet. Plus it doesn't do it reliably, so it doesn't eliminate anything. I still need to think I need to go through all the motions, even if I might not have to.

Personally I find, even with very experienced shooters, if a gun does something inconsistent, it will cause them to pause, and then unpause onto a new string of actions. So it's not skipping a step, it's erasing everything and quickly replotting your actions and continuing on.

I really don't slam mags, but I do insert them with purpose. It seems people that like that feature do, and they will tell you they "slam" it to try to get the slide to release.
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:09 PM   #22
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I just picked up a M&P 9c with three mags and night sights for 375, can't wait to try it out. A buddy just got the same gun and bought an APEX kit and I'm going to help him install it. Should make a big difference in the trigger action, or so I'm told we will see. Trigger defiantly not as good as my XDm's but then they cost alot more.
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:12 PM   #23
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I was discussing a M&P Pro with a LGS clerk and he said the series was designed and found to have this "auto slide release" issue... they basically said "screw it" and left it as is. Personally I like it, I have never found it to misfeed a round or anything (2 range sessions, 350 rounds or so through it)

I also like the trigger on the M&P series, will be picking up a Shield soon. I will likely do some polishing on it as well (trigger, barrel, etc) just to make sure it's not gritty or anything.
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:25 PM   #24
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My slide does the auto forward with a new mag every time on my M&P .40. I think it's a nice feature. And the trigger does get better with use.


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Old 10-01-2012, 02:03 AM   #26
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I bought a new M&P 9, full sized, no mag or manual safety, came with three 17rd mags, cost $350.
For that price, I wouldn't be complaining at all, frankly. I can't get one for under $450 in my neck of the woods.

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Overall I like the gun a lot, but I've been XD/XDm for a long time. The thing I'm not used to is having to break in the slide stop and starting with a creaky trigger. Also, loading a mag causing the slide to fall automatically.
First of all, the M&P is not an XDm, and an XDm is not a Glock. They each have their own characteristics, so don't expect them to be clones of one another in how they work and feel.

The gun is brand new. parts need to break in. I've found the slide stop to be the one that needs the most time to do so other than the trigger. When I had a XD-45, pulling back the slide was a pure son of a bee-*** when it was new. It should wear-in over time.

The trigger is gritty on M&P's. I really don't care. Again, new gun. Over time, this too will smooth out. M&P stated during the release of their new SHIELD that all the M&P's will get the improved trigger found on the SHIELD model over time. When, exactly, I don't know. I'm hoping sometime early next year.

The auto-forward slide feature is just that, a feature. You're going to rack it anyway, so there's no big deal here. If you don't want it to do this, then just shut the slide, load a fresh mag, and then manually rack.

I always verify when I load a new mag in regardless.

You may want to look at a Ruger SR9. That gun won't slide shut on you and that giant loaded chamber indicator fin will definitely tell you if there is a round in the chamber. The SR's slide stop is not meant to function as a slide release, though. But it's definitely doable. I do think the M&P is a better made gun, though the SR9/40 isn't bad either. Of course, the XDm's are great as well. My only gripe with them are their grip design which can wear out my hands sooner than I'd like, their teeny tiny dots on the sights, and they seem to weigh more than other poly guns I've used/owned. All minor issues.
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My slide release on my .40c is also a bear! Maybe I didn't slam my mag inbut it didn't close the slide automatically.


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I paid heavily to get that gun for $350. Ironic.

The trigger isn't a big issue. I know that breaks in, but before that even happens I'm getting a trigger job done. Smooth and almost no travel for reset.

A few tips I got for breaking it in was; 1) Leave the slide locked back for a week or so to "relax" the spring. 2) Load all the mags full and do the same, same reason. 3) Constantly work the slide release during commercials to break that in. 4) Dry fire snap caps or [clean] fired brass to break the trigger in for about 1000rds.
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The auto-forward slide feature is just that, a feature. You're going to rack it anyway, so there's no big deal here. If you don't want it to do this, then just shut the slide, load a fresh mag, and then manually rack.

I always verify when I load a new mag in regardless.
It's a flaw IMO, since it doesn't do it reliably. I wouldn't mind it if it was consistent. And if it really can fail to pick up the round, that's even worse. I don't brass check during action pistol matches, so why would I under real pressure?

From what I'm hearing here, most full sized do it, most compact models don't, and the shields don't. Not much of a feature.

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You may want to look at a Ruger SR9. That gun won't slide shut on you and that giant loaded chamber indicator fin will definitely tell you if there is a round in the chamber.
Just not a Ruger handgun fan. Since the issue is on reloads, I won't have time to check the indicators, no matter how big and goofy they are.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:40 PM   #30
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Got a trigger job with APEX parts, $65. It's smooth and crisp release. Almost 1mm for reset! Amazing.

I wonder if this changed the magazine-insert slide auto release thing. Probably not, bet smooth up the slide release.

Forgot about the mag 'feature' and will have to check for it on my Shield now. Haven't had it happen yet.

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