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[jgreg]

Originally Posted by kypix

Here is my favorite:







kypix1

I like this gun. This is a Buckmark right?

[daisychain11B]

Originally Posted by jgreg

I like this gun. This is a Buckmark right?

Negative, it's a Ruger.

[Cuda66]

Originally Posted by Kaboom

Yeah I'm a fan boy of all my guns, nice try newb.

Some people forget that a gun is just another type of machine and you have to follow certain guidelines or procedures to get out of it what you want. If you just "put gas in it and go" you can expect problems.

EVERY gun has problems with some of them, the Buckmarks for instance have disassebly issues. The Skeeter has a complication in that the owner is expected to READ the manual and follow accordingly: use the soft spring and run 40gr Mini-Mags at first.

When I first got my Skeeter I did that and had three fails in the first three mags and none after that for probobly 5,000rnds. I don't even clean them all that much and certainly don't detail strip just for curiositie's sake.

The P22 likes to be massaged a little bit, the "p22 bible" ( a free download ) walks you through some very easy mods for the non-lazy types to greatly improve it's function and longevity.

Once the OP decides what he wants the new 22 to do he will have a leg up on what model to pick.

OK, first off--exactly what disassembly issues do Buckmarks have? Read The eFfin' Manual, and it's a piece of cake.

Second--yeah, I suppose one could go buy a pistol that one needs to baby the first few rounds, and use special ammo...or one that needs a fluffer job to get running correctly.

Or, for the same (or less) money, one could just buy a Buckmark or a Ruger MK and have it run correctly right out of the box.

[Rbrad1]

As with sports, movies,women etc, we all have a differant opinions to what we like and dislike. To each, their own. Many have problems with certain weapons, while many have no problems. Life is too short to "diss" some one's opinion about what they like/have/don't have, etc. when it comes to firearms. I know the the original OP wanted opions and that is what he is getting. However, when someone decides to start giving "labels" to people because they like a certain firearm...that goes beyond opinion and smacks of being either sarcastic (because they KNOW better!)or it might be taken as a personal attack. Something I thought that this forum prohibits.

[kypix]

Originally Posted by jgreg

I like this gun. This is a Buckmark right?

Like Daisychain said, It is a Ruger. More specifically, it is a Ruger Mark III.

The gun shot great right out of the box. You don't have to change a thing. Reliable. Well made. Fun to shoot. Accurate.

However, there are lots of accessories available for the Marks. Nice to be able to customize and make it "your" favorite gun.

In my case:
The grips are Altamont. Ultima target. Rosewood.

Picked up a Tactical Solutions threaded barrel. This was before Ruger started making their own TB. An added bonus with this barrel is the lighter weight. If you are not careful, you can end up with a 3 lb pistol when you start adding toys.

Went with a cheap red dot to help my 50 something year old eyes.

Then the suppressor. Again, went cheap. Tactical Solutions Cascade.

I have not changed any of the internals, i.e., trigger, mag safety, etc. (yet).

Lots of great .22s out there. Shoot a bunch of different guns and you will find the right one. Then another, and another, . . .

kypix

[jgreg]

Originally Posted by kypix

Like Daisychain said, It is a Ruger. More specifically, it is a Ruger Mark III.

The gun shot great right out of the box. You don't have to change a thing. Reliable. Well made. Fun to shoot. Accurate.

However, there are lots of accessories available for the Marks. Nice to be able to customize and make it "your" favorite gun.

In my case:
The grips are Altamont. Ultima target. Rosewood.

Picked up a Tactical Solutions threaded barrel. This was before Ruger started making their own TB. An added bonus with this barrel is the lighter weight. If you are not careful, you can end up with a 3 lb pistol when you start adding toys.

Went with a cheap red dot to help my 50 something year old eyes.

Then the suppressor. Again, went cheap. Tactical Solutions Cascade.

I have not changed any of the internals, i.e., trigger, mag safety, etc. (yet).

Lots of great .22s out there. Shoot a bunch of different guns and you will find the right one. Then another, and another, . . .

kypix

I went and check out Tactical Solutions and Altamont and I like their stuff. The gun looks great and I hope it shoots as good too. I also found some rose wood grips for my Sig P226. This stuff is getting good.

[MRH]

I have a P22 and its a fun gun for plinking but if I had the chance to do it all over again I would have save some money and bought a Ruger mark III. I liked the P22 because it was a combat style pistol but unless you are using the more expensive CCI mini-mag type ammo it has a tendency to malfunction. Some people I know say it is still in the break-in process but I have put 1,500 rounds of cheap federal ammo through it and still get occasional malfunction. Although I don't have a Ruger to compare it with I have not heard of people having these types of problems with the Rugers.

[Kaboom]

Originally Posted by Adyta

I agree that every model of gun has it's lemons... but from what I have read, it seems the Mosquitos are lemons with the occasional gem. Scroll up a bit and see what I'm talking about, another member here has a Mosquito and had problems with FTF and FTEs which seems to be a huge problem with these guns. Instead of him getting a bad one, maybe you got a good one.

You say your P22 needs to be "massaged" and there's even a manual on how to get it working? That in my opinion is a junk gun. When I buy a new gun, I expect it to come ready to be fired flawlessly. If I have to do mods, polish this, dremel that... that is a piece of **** gun.

I have owned about a dozen guns and fired thousands of rounds through those guns and I have NEVER had a malfunction in my life. They are supposed to be extremely rare occurrences. How would you feel about a car that sometimes doesn't start, or stalls every few miles?

"Flawless guns" are a new phenomenon not an age old norm. When I grew up guns and gas engines always had "break-in periods" where they would be finicky or needed to be babied until the parts wore in.

Originally Posted by Quickdraw Limpsalot

Not directed at you, DoubleA, but since you mentioned it...

It seems that the people on the 'net that have all these reassembly problems either
a) have zero mechanical ability
or
b) can't follow the simple directions in the owners manual or the two hundred tutorials on youtube and personal web pages.

Mine's tripped me up a time or two, but NEVER anywhere near the point that I've ever regretted buying/owning it.

^^Check this one out Cuda^^ are you saying he shoulda read the effin manual? lol

Originally Posted by Cuda66

OK, first off--exactly what disassembly issues do Buckmarks have? Read The eFfin' Manual, and it's a piece of cake.

Second--yeah, I suppose one could go buy a pistol that one needs to baby the first few rounds, and use special ammo...or one that needs a fluffer job to get running correctly.

Or, for the same (or less) money, one could just buy a Buckmark or a Ruger MK and have it run correctly right out of the box.

I've never babied any of my guns save my DW CBOB 10mm, however your blurb about babying, special ammo, and fluffer jobs seems to apply to about half the Kimbers coming off the line lol.
Typical first post of new Kimber owner:
"Hey look at my new Kimber"
Typical second post:
"why won't my Kimber run right?" lol

Why is this acceptable in a $1,000 gun but not in a $300 gun?
For some reason folks whine about a 22 not being perfect with every type of el cheapo ammo that they can find when they are still cheaper to shoot by leaps and bounds than centerfire guns.

I haven't told anybody to NOT buy a Ruger or a Buckmark ( I in fact own a Buckmark, it's fine for what it is. ) if you want a target 22 they are fine, if you want a Service style 22, they are not and never have been.

Back on topic.
I actually am starting to like the M&P 22, seems like an appropriate rimfire sub for an array of centerfire Service pistols. Would make a nice stand-in for M&P, XD, HK and a number of others as the style and general placement of controls is very similar. If you are wanting a 1911 in 22, the GSG ( whether it says GSG or Sig on the side ) seems to be about the only quality game in town.
Anywayz, when the OP can tell us what he wants to use it for, we can help a lot more.

[jgreg]

I want a dependable .22 for target shooting. So I can take it and my Sig P226 to the range and shoot for an hour or so. I like to target shoot.

[Kaboom]

Originally Posted by jgreg

I want a dependable .22 for target shooting. So I can take it and my Sig P226 to the range and shoot for an hour or so. I like to target shoot.

Then I would say go with the Rugers, there is a metric ton of accessories if your heart feels the need.