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This is a discussion on New S&W M&P Add within the Non-XD Handguns forums, part of the Other Handgun Talk category; Has anybody seen the new M&P add that totally knocks the XD and Glock, outright saying its the superior of the three. What are everyones ...


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Old 04-26-2011, 03:53 PM   #1
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New S&W M&P Add

Has anybody seen the new M&P add that totally knocks the XD and Glock, outright saying its the superior of the three. What are everyones opinions of this type of marketing. The add pictures parts from all three guns and then has and a comparison of parts that reads like this
M&P Glock gen 4 Xd(m)
Palm swell grips Y N N

Ambidextrous Slide stop Y N N

Embedded Stainless
Stell Chasis Y N N

Ambidextrous Thumb
Safety Y N N


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To me non of these features even matter. The Xd(m) and Glock Gen 4 have interchangeable back straps which work just find.
Ambi Slide Stop not a lefty don't need it.
Stell Chasis, well my Xd trigger blocks seem to work just find so whats the point.
Ambi thumb safety??? well we don't really need a thumb safety on a Xd, XD(m) or glock do we? Well the glock might need one.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:05 PM   #2
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Has anybody seen the new M&P add that totally knocks the XD and Glock, outright saying its the superior of the three. What are everyones opinions of this type of marketing. The add pictures parts from all three guns and then has and a comparison of parts that reads like this
M&P Glock gen 4 Xd(m)
Palm swell grips Y N N

Ambidextrous Slide stop Y N N

Embedded Stainless
Stell Chasis Y N N

Ambidextrous Thumb
Safety Y N N


Country Of
Manufacture USA Austria Croatia

To me non of these features even matter. The Xd(m) and Glock Gen 4 have interchangeable back straps which work just find.
Ambi Slide Stop not a lefty don't need it.
Stell Chasis, well my Xd trigger blocks seem to work just find so whats the point.
Ambi thumb safety??? well we don't really need a thumb safety on a Xd, XD(m) or glock do we? Well the glock might need one.
Eh, marketing is marketing. They're doing their job by pointing out what some may perceive as advantages to the platform.

Ambi safty/slide stop? Thats a huge bonus for left handed people and those worried about their shooting hand becoming injured in a firefight.

The palm swells are a pretty nice design that adjust both the width and thickness of the grip.

The steel skeleton in the frame? Not that big of a deal to be honest. It may be a selling point for some but there are thousands of polymer pistols out there that don't have that feature and are perfectly fine.

Every gun has its pro's and con's and it's the job of marketing to focus on the good things of the platform. I doubt you would find an add from S&W that went like this...

"Tactile" trigger - Gives the feeling of pulling a boat oar through quicksand. The grit lets you know its working!

Ambi slide release - When the left one snaps off you can still use the right one!

"Gambler" barrel - Not only did we use a rate of twist that isn't optimized for 9mm but we also added to the experience by using barrels that have a chance of switching from combat accuracy to shotgun-like spreads at 25 yards. You won't know if you have a good one till 4k rounds which adds to the fun!

See? An add like that probably wouldn't help their bottom line much. Once again, no gun is perfect and every gun has it's strengths. Personally, I'm happy with my XDm but I would not turn down an M&P if given the opportunity to buy one.
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They're trolling for M&P fanboys. No worries.
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:33 PM   #4
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Funny they don't mention the XD's grip safety, XDm interchangeable backstraps, striker indicator, loaded chamber indicator, or trigger safety....of which the M&P has none. The M&P is a great gun, but to compare it feature for feature against the XD it will lose.
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:45 PM   #5
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The marketing people need to do some research.

The XDm and Gen4 Glock both have interchangeable grips.
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Funny they don't mention the XD's grip safety, XDm interchangeable backstraps, striker indicator, loaded chamber indicator, or trigger safety....of which the M&P has none. The M&P is a great gun, but to compare it feature for feature against the XD it will lose.

We all know this (now). But, when I was in the market for my first firearm, I didn't know squat. So, being uneducated and looking at said ad, I probably would have been swayed toward the M&P. I'd probably be pretty happy with it and never know of what the XD had to offer.

And that's who they're aiming for, the guys who are looking to buy a gun and don't know a lot of about them.

Thankfully I was directed toward XD's by my brother.
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Yeah, the other marketing ploy is used by the local sporting goods dealers, the fact that so many police Dept's use the S&W M&P's but fail to mention that pricing contracts practically give them away, they can say the weapon is so good that "X" number of police Dept's use them, why wouldn't you? Which then they hope to make the real money on the private sale consumer end, at much higer prices, THe pitch sounds reasonable, but objectively the weapons could be total crap, what kind of accountant really takes into consideration field issues when the bottom line is bucks? I agree that the XD's have far better features as has been mentioned in the previous thread posts...I have no remorse for buying my XD...or concern for contracting the famed Glock leg syndrome....
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As with any marketing ploy, they only hit on what they believe their product excells at above the others. However, they did fail at even that...um, backstraps are on all 3 as NewBlackDak pointed out.
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These kinds of ads always make me think like this.
You will buy this pistol because we spent money on ads rather than our product. It could have been improved with this and that but we think this ad will help save your life in a dangerous situation- Y N N

I do actually like M&Ps quite a lot, but the trigger needs work, not the ads.

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Old 04-27-2011, 12:19 PM   #10
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The XDm and Glock gen4 have interchangeable backstraps but they just stick out of the back. The interchangeable "palmswell" grips on the M&P actually fill your hand by going around the side of the frame. I think that's the point they were trying to make when they put out that ad. I won't knock the XDm or Glock because I think they're great guns, but IMHO the M&P is a superior design. I see no need for a grip safety, loaded chamber indicator, or a striker indicator. I can see why some like those features though. At the end of the day they're all great guns and people should choose the one they are most comfortable with.
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