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BIG PROBLEM! Shell jammed in barrel!

This is a discussion on BIG PROBLEM! Shell jammed in barrel! within the Non-XD Handguns forums, part of the Other Handgun Talk category; My brother and I went to the range today. When he was firing his Beretta 92fs it jammed. We tried racking the slide several times ...


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Old 03-21-2010, 08:38 PM   #1
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BIG PROBLEM! Shell jammed in barrel!

My brother and I went to the range today. When he was firing his Beretta 92fs it jammed. We tried racking the slide several times but it won't budge. Its actually stuck out of battery leaving the slide partially racked. The slide will not budge even a little.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:26 PM   #2
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Can you safely see if there is a round in the chamber? Squib?
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:29 PM   #4
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Were you shooting reloads? Round out of spec, stuck halfway in the chamber. Keeping your fingers away from the trigger, hold the slide firmly with one hand slap the pack of the handgaurd with the other. Slap it forward away from you.
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:12 PM   #5
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We were both shooting Winchester Nato 9mm 124 gr. FMJ. Which on the back of the box states "These cartridges are loaded to military velocity and pressure which is higher than 9mm Luger cartridges; average pressure is 10% higher than industry standard pressure for 9mm Luger." I pick them up when I'm traveling at Academy Sports chains. I gone thru about 200-300 rounds in my old XDm 9mm never had a problem. I had 2 FTEs with my CZ P01 and he had one FTE with the empty brass lodging in the barrel. There is no round in the barrel. He used a flash light to look and there is just an empty brass lodged in the barrel. It also looks like there may be a hair line crack in the slide where it chambers a new round. It has had alot of FTEs ever since hes had it. He got it from a friend, who originally picked it up at a gun show used. I got him a Wilson Combat spring kit for Xmas and he replaced the recoil spring with a slightly higher # which helped alot on the FTEs. But every so often it would still FTE. So it's not a total suprise something happened. he's going to take it to a Gun Smith and have it looked at and see what damage, if any, has been done and see what it will take to fix it.
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:16 PM   #6
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The brass appears to be fully lodged in the barrel up to the butt flush. Also when you look at the pick where the hammer is we were trying to figure out if the gap you see in the square ring where the hammer strikes is suppose to be seperated like it is or if thats another result of the jam. Don't have another Beretta here to look at and compare unfourtunately.
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Sounds like your extractor is not working properly, but I don't think that wouldn't have caused the problem. Possible problem with the locking block.
If there is no bullet and it IS an empty case, swing the takedown lever down and take the slide off the frame and go from there.
That ammo is pretty much the only ammo I use in all my 9mm, it is loaded to less than +P pressures and should not have caused any probe at all in that gun.
Unfortunately since it is a Beretta you are screwed as far as any sort of warranty is concerned.
I've crossposted this over at the Beretta forum.
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...the gap you see in the square ring where the hammer strikes is suppose to be seperated like it is...
This is normal.
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Thanks for cross posting for me. The take down lever goes down as normal but the slide won't budge even then. I read this on another page and wonder if maybe is was the same problem thats why the slide is locked part of the added safety feature.
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With the introduction of the Model 92FS in the late 1980s, another unusual safety feature was fitted in the form of an enlarged head to the hammer pin. The purpose of this safety is to prevent the rear of the slide from flying back into the firer’s face in the case of the slide failure. This happened several times during the earlier years of Model 92F service in US military, apparently because of metallurgical problems, combined with the “built-in” weak points in the slide where the locking block cuts are made. Recognizing these weak points, the US INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service) requested Beretta to make their model 96 (.40 S&W caliber version of Model 92) with reinforced slides. This resulted in appearance of the Model 96 Brigadier pistols, and, later on, the same modification was applied to 9mm pistols, available as Model 92 Brigadier.
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... There is no round in the barrel. He used a flash light to look and there is just an empty brass lodged in the barrel. ... he's going to take it to a Gun Smith and have it looked at and see what damage, if any, has been done and see what it will take to fix it.
I HOPE there is nothing in the barrel.

As mentioned before, hold slide firmly (and pointed in a safe direction), and open right hand like you are going to grasp the pistol.

Strike sharply with the area between thumb and forefinger/web of hand. This usuall unlocks a stuck slide. May take a couple blows.

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