Is a 10mm not worth it....just get a 45acp

[YamaLink]

Camping season is about 6 months away with our area's weather, but I'm thinking of a 10mm for the higher elevation camping. But if I don't see any grizzly (fingers crossed I don't) is a 10mm not "fun" for range and target practice especially compared to a 45acp?

I reload so ammo is not quite an issue but I'd like to have fun with whatever big semi auto I choose. The Colt Delta Elite is kinda spendy and I'm not a big fan of the 1911 style so that leaves me with the Glock (sorry, not looking for a EAA), right?

Or should I just stick with the 45, load some good hot safe rounds and have a more versatile handgun?

[NW-Warlord]

The G29 is a great gun, my favorite Glock. The G20 is almost as fantastic but it is pretty big, but it is hard to argue with 16 rounds of hot 10mm. I have both, but wish I got the G29 first that way I would not have bought the G20. I carry the G29 everywhere I go. As you can tell I have mixed feelings over which gun is better.

Since you reload I cannot recommend the 10mm enough, it is a show stopper. Load up to max specification and have fun.

[Cannibul]

The 10mm is going to blow any .45 ACP load you can safely come up with out of the water.

Before the tragic boating accident I had three 10mm pistols. All 1911s.

[scooter123]

If you want versatile, think revolver. Specifically the S&W 610. Not only will it shoot 10mm, it will also shoot the 40 S&W, plus shotshells and it won't ever jam. Try running a mix of 10mm, 40 caliber, and 10mm shotshells in a Glock and watch what happens, jam city. I'll grant that it only has a 6 round capacity, however if you don't manage to stop a charging bear with the first 2 or 3 shots it's not going to matter because he'll be on you turning you into hamburger. I'll also point out that because it's a moon clip gun, reloading takes about as much time as swapping a magazine.

They are also heavy enough that that ARE fun for the range, especially if you load up a bunch of clips before heading out. Eight loaded clips will fit nicely in a standard 50 round ammo box and the clips are fairly cheap. S&W charges 4.44 per clip so 16 clips will probably cost less than 3 magazines for a Glock. That means you hit the shooting bench with 96 rounds ready to go and you go home with every single disharged casing still in the clips.

Currently there are 2 versions of the 610, the 4 inch and the 6 1/2 incher. I have the 6 1/2 incher and the sight radius is 8.75 inches, which makes drilling the bullseye a simple matter of concentration. Cost is also fairly reasonable, mine cost 775.00 when I ordered in from a local dealer. No, it's not as cheap as a Glock, however it's all stainless steel and a damned fine revolver.

As for woods carry, with my long barrel the only holster that I would consider is a Dirty Hairy shoulder rig. It is too heavy for waist carry and that long barrel impedes a fast draw from a belt holster. The 4 inch will work in a belt holster but a good belt is mandatory, it weighs in at 42 ounces.

Finally, the 610 feature S&W's interchangeable sight system. Which means that the front sight can be changed in under a minute, all you have to do is push the sight straight towards the rear against a spring and lift the frontside up once it clears the retaining pin. Want a fibre optic for range play, just pop it in. Want a good bead patridge for bulleye shooting, same deal. About the only type of sight not currently available for this type of mount is a tritium night sight and I expect that will change sometime this year. They also come pre-drilled and tapped for a weaver rail so you have a large variety of ret dot sights available.

Now, try and do all that with your plastic fantastic Glock, it aint gonna happen. If you want a truly versatile handgun, you gotta to old school.

[ThatSickRip]

Originally Posted by scooter123

If you want versatile, think revolver. Specifically the S&W 610. Not only will it shoot 10mm, it will also shoot the 40 S&W, plus shotshells and it won't ever jam. Try running a mix of 10mm, 40 caliber, and 10mm shotshells in a Glock and watch what happens, jam city. I'll grant that it only has a 6 round capacity, however if you don't manage to stop a charging bear with the first 2 or 3 shots it's not going to matter because he'll be on you turning you into hamburger. I'll also point out that because it's a moon clip gun, reloading takes about as much time as swapping a magazine.

They are also heavy enough that that ARE fun for the range, especially if you load up a bunch of clips before heading out. Eight loaded clips will fit nicely in a standard 50 round ammo box and the clips are fairly cheap. S&W charges 4.44 per clip so 16 clips will probably cost less than 3 magazines for a Glock. That means you hit the shooting bench with 96 rounds ready to go and you go home with every single disharged casing still in the clips.

Currently there are 2 versions of the 610, the 4 inch and the 6 1/2 incher. I have the 6 1/2 incher and the sight radius is 8.75 inches, which makes drilling the bullseye a simple matter of concentration. Cost is also fairly reasonable, mine cost 775.00 when I ordered in from a local dealer. No, it's not as cheap as a Glock, however it's all stainless steel and a damned fine revolver.

As for woods carry, with my long barrel the only holster that I would consider is a Dirty Hairy shoulder rig. It is too heavy for waist carry and that long barrel impedes a fast draw from a belt holster. The 4 inch will work in a belt holster but a good belt is mandatory, it weighs in at 42 ounces.

Finally, the 610 feature S&W's interchangeable sight system. Which means that the front sight can be changed in under a minute, all you have to do is push the sight straight towards the rear against a spring and lift the frontside up once it clears the retaining pin. Want a fibre optic for range play, just pop it in. Want a good bead patridge for bulleye shooting, same deal. About the only type of sight not currently available for this type of mount is a tritium night sight and I expect that will change sometime this year. They also come pre-drilled and tapped for a weaver rail so you have a large variety of ret dot sights available.

Now, try and do all that with your plastic fantastic Glock, it aint gonna happen. If you want a truly versatile handgun, you gotta to old school.

Hell, I wasn't even in the market,but after reading you got me sold on one!

[k-dog]

I've got the G20SF and an XD-45 Service. I CCW the 45 because I am more comfortable with it and I don't have any holsters for the G20, but the G20 is definitely my woods gun (I use one of my 45 OWB holsters in a pinch). I just picked up the G20 a week or so before Christmas and have been practicing with different rounds. The 165 grain 10mm FMJ round split a gallon milk jug of water in half which was more damage than the 230 grain .45 JHP. I just ordered 3 more mags for the G20. Now I need to get a good holster for it. This was my first Glock and I was very impressed and love the short frame feature.
With all of that said the 10mm is a little more jarring than the .45ACP.

[Reno82]

I have a 10mm kimber SS.. great gun. Cost me $650.... It's my woods pistol that I carry with my chest rig. I fish alot and the chest rig allows more movement and I can see it easily. Here is a link to see what it looks like. Blackhawk Taser Universal Harness / Holster, Black, Holsters, Blackhawk at Sportsman's Guide

[ryr8828]

I have never wrestled a bear nor shot one but I'd think you'd want more power, and it wouldn't be a bad idea to take along a diaper.

[scooterj]

Another S&W 610 fan here. I love mine.

[trik396]

Smith & Wesson 1006 here. Built like a tank. As accurate as any gun I've ever shot in 20 years. And as cool looking as it gets. Just ask Vic Mackey (although his was in .45)