Rock Island Armory 1911?This is a discussion on Rock Island Armory 1911? within the Non-XD Handguns forums, part of the Other Handgun Talk category; Actually, one of the advantages of the Bare-bones RIA's vs. the Springfield GI's is that the RIA's have a slightly flaired mag well and a ...
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09-18-2009, 01:03 AM
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Actually, one of the advantages of the Bare-bones RIA's vs. the Springfield GI's is that the RIA's have a slightly flaired mag well and a lowered ejection port.
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09-18-2009, 01:07 AM
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Here's my RIA..
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Originally Posted by yocan
I gotta disagree here with hot ammo its a big deal, anything under the label of .45 ACP +P it won't matter.
Now something like a hot 10mm I think it would definitely matter. Something in .44 magnum or bigger I think it would matter as well. but .45s are such low PSI I think your right.
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So you are saying forgings are better, stronger, etc. I tend to agree with you.
But there are many engineers from Ruger who would disagree with us. I'm pretty sure the Ruger GP and Redhawks are investment castings and not forgings.
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Did I bad-mouth anything here? I was suggesting that the cost of producing forged frames vs. cast frames is higher. Todays investment castings are very strong.
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Sorry, I thought you were implying that forged is sooo much better than cast.
I think it's a bit of give and take. Like Yocan said it's probably a bigger issue for 10mm's and .40s but not as essential for .45's.
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09-19-2009, 11:10 PM
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I have a RIA Gi model and I love it. I will repeat what has already been said ... if you just want a bare bones 1911 then it can save you a few dollars. Now if you plan to customize it then I have read/been told that a springfield makes a better base gun.
The only thing I have done to mine is replace the wood grips with wrap around hogue grips.
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09-19-2009, 11:20 PM
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Aren't the RIA's made in the Phillipines? Low labor costs would account for the bargain prices. I have no experience with them and don't know the quality of the material or the quality of the company when they assemble them. I know that a lot of 1911's were modified on the Norinco models and they were made in China. As I recall they had some concerns on the hardness of the frames and slides......mettalurgy not up to standard. Does anyone have any experience with the RIA after it's been shot a lot? Any frame or slide issues?
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09-19-2009, 11:25 PM
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Aren't the RIA's made in the Phillipines? Low labor costs would account for the bargain prices. I have no experience with them and don't know the quality of the material or the quality of the company when they assemble them. I know that a lot of 1911's were modified on the Norinco models and they were made in China. As I recall they had some concerns on the hardness of the frames and slides......mettalurgy not up to standard. Does anyone have any experience with the RIA after it's been shot a lot? Any frame or slide issues?
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Close to 5k rounds through my RIA tactical, not a single problem. And yes, they are made in the Philipines...and Springfields are made in Brazil.
I recommend them to anyone who wants a solid shooting, reliable 1911...which I would not do with either a Springfield (had a Champion that was an utter dog) or Para Ordinance (14.45 that would, every now and then, make it through an entire mag...).
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RIA's have a life-time warrantee...if that helps. Also one of the finest customer service reputations in the industry.
Check here for imformation and expertise on this pistol.
The M1911 Pistols Organization Forums Site - Armscor/Rock Island
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09-20-2009, 12:11 AM
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Close to 5k rounds through my RIA tactical, not a single problem. And yes, they are made in the Philipines...and Springfields are made in Brazil.
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Point taken, however Brazil has been making firearms for a long time. Taurus and FIE to name two. Armscorp is the only guns manufacturer in the PI that I know of and probably makes the RIA for export. They use investment casting and CNC machinery so their methods are up to date. Nothing against the RIA but it just wouldn't be my personal choice. I have Colts, SA's and a custom bulls eye gun using a Caspian frame and slide and all have been shot a lot with no problems. Everybody and I mean everybody makes a 1911 clone now. I'm just not comfortable with some of them.
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10-20-2009, 08:48 PM
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Close to 5k rounds through my RIA tactical, not a single problem. And yes, they are made in the Philipines...and Springfields are made in Brazil.
I recommend them to anyone who wants a solid shooting, reliable 1911...which I would not do with either a Springfield (had a Champion that was an utter dog) or Para Ordinance (14.45 that would, every now and then, make it through an entire mag...).
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Wow...I have a Para P14:45 with well over 50,000 rds through it..
It runs on all 5 mags with all kinds of ammo..Mostly my lead RN reloads.
It's my USPSA limited gun..Big and heavy with all that ammo in it too..
and Paras aren't cheep.
But I started reading this to learn about these RI more affordable guns that many seem to be happy with here..thats cool..
I have a few fancy .45s and now I'm hankering for a plain parked GI,
but I want a Commander size..or commander slide w/officer frame..
edit:and they do make one..got this from Wikipedia.
1911-A1 FS 1911-A1 MS 1911-A1 CS 1911-A2 High Capacity 1911-A1 Tactical 1911-A1 Match Size Full Commander Compact
(Colt Officer) Full Full Full Length 8.75 in 7.75 in 6.75 in 8.75 in 8.75 in 8.75in Barrel
Length 5 in 4 in 3.5 in bull 5 in 5 in 5 in Weight 2.4 lbs 2.2 lbs 2.16 lbs 2.6 lbs 2.5 lbs 2.4 lbs Sights G.I. Snag free Snag free G.I. Snag free Combat LPA Adjustable Magazine
Capacity 8 round 8 round 6 round 13 round 8 round 8 round Image
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RIA MS Parkerized 2009
RIA "Widebody"
RIA Tactical Parkerized 2009
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