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Most reliable .380 out there ?

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Old 09-09-2009, 09:42 AM   #1
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Most reliable .380 out there ?

What is the most reliable .380 out there ?
I vote the CZ-83 . I have a 22 yr old CZ-83 and a new CZ-83 . Both have not had any malfunctions at all . The CZ-83 can be shot and shot and still run strong . I have read and heard from friends that a Keltec and similiar have a short round life , but can be replaced by warranty .
So whats your most reliable .380 ? I am talking about like over 2-3,000 rds out of it or more .
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:00 AM   #2
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I have a Sig P230 that should easily fall into this category. I bought it from a coworker last year, no telling how many rounds were through it when he got it. It still shoots like a champ, and I've not had one single failure of any kind with it.
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I have a Sig P230 that should easily fall into this category. I bought it from a coworker last year, no telling how many rounds were through it when he got it. It still shoots like a champ, and I've not had one single failure of any kind with it.
Is the frame steel or alloy?
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:31 AM   #4
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I've heard good things about Sig's new P238, but I havent' been able to fire one yet. And I've also heard Sig's quality is slipping.
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That's a tough one to answer. To be on the safe side and totally honest.
I'd have to say if you own a .380 and have never had any problems with it, then that's one one that is most reliable to you. With all the .380's out there, and the ones that have been out there in the past I really wouldn't have a clue as which one is absolutely the most reliable. I am sure though it could be a discussion that could go on forever, and I'm sure some die hard .380 lovers could get pretty fired up about it.

My .380 Kel Tec is what it is,and what it isn't is a gun you would want to put thousands of rounds through. It's nothing more than a self defence pocket pistol or a BUG. I've been hearing allot of Leo's have been buying them up faster than doughnuts.
(just kidding guys). Is it reliable for what I need it for? I belive it is now that it's broken it and has had a Fluff and Buff.
It is going to be fun to see where this topic of the most reliable .380 ends up though.

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Old 09-09-2009, 10:35 AM   #6
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I've heard good things about Sig's new P238, but I havent' been able to fire one yet. And I've also heard Sig's quality is slipping.
I heard that too about Sig . Sad to hear .
I wanted to get a Sig 238 but I wanted the bugs to be weeded out . They have a recall going on now .
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Is the frame steel or alloy?
Steel, it's a P230 SL.

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Old 09-09-2009, 11:11 AM   #8
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I spent an hour in my local shop yesterday with the Kel-Tec .380, the LCP, and the P238. Hands down the p238 both looks and feels better however it's much heavier. If your purpose is the range and some carry the p238 (assuming post recall, etc) would be the way I would go. If your purpose is a BUG either the Kel-Tec or LCP seem like better choices, especially if pocket carry is planned.

I would have a hard time justifying the nearly 2X's price of the p238 but might if I planned to do a considerable amount of range time with the gun.

Prices as of yesterday (Charleston, SC) were:

Kel-Tec - 315+
LCP - 399
p238 - 647


I've been extremely pleased with my Bersa Thunder .380 which eats every type of ammo I put through it. I see a Kel-Tec or LCP in my future though as even the Bersa isn't what I would consider a pocket friendly gun.
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I wanted the Bersa and tried to talk myself into it but I havent seen any reports of people having more than 2,000 rds out f them .
Anyone have a long term Bersa report ?
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If you have a SIG SAUER P238 with a serial number between DA000501 and DA003216, please cease use of the firearm immediately. Not all P238s within the identified serial number range are affected; therefore, it is imperative that you contact us via the UPGRADE HOT LINE at 1 (866) 446-1914. An operator will take your information and confirm if your firearm is required to be returned for Upgrading. If necessary, you will receive a certified package from SIG SAUER that will contain a UPS shipping return label, a Return Merchandise Authorization Number, and a box to return the firearm. Simply affix the provided UPS shipping label to the supplied box (completely covering the existing shipping label) and bring the box to a designated UPS drop-off location. Please be certain to include the magazine along with the original SIG SAUER blue gun box. If you have questions or would like further information, you may contact SIG SAUER CUSTOMER SERVICE at 603-772-2302 (Choose Option # 3).

the sig recall was only for 2700 guns. so if your new 238 was outside these serial numbers you should be good to go.
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