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Triple seven in a thompson 50cal hawken?

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Old 05-07-2009, 11:13 PM   #1
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Question Triple seven in a thompson 50cal hawken?

I'm not new to black powder, been doing it for about 15yrs now, but i have a question and i hope someone can give me some ideas here. i have a 50cal thompson hawken in mint shape and with a 1-48 twist,so i will be shooting sabots with 200-240 bullets or the 245gr aerotip powerbelt bullet. can i safely shot triple seven power(not pellets) in the rifle and what max do you think i should stop at. I usually shoot 100 grains out of my other black powder rifles when i had them. Is it too hot or will i be ok if i stay at my 100 grain mark. THANKS!
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Old 05-08-2009, 12:00 AM   #2
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I always thought sabots needede 1/24 twist or higher to perform correctly... guess I was wrong. Look it up, it just sounds like for a sabot to do anything it would need at least some twist.
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i have always read that a 1-48 you can use both sabots and round ball and faster than 1-48 it is good to use only sabots because the twist will be to fast for the patch.
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the main question here is the powder type.
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My T/C 209x50 shoots the best with 80 loose grains of Pyrodex FFg with 248 grain Hornady Sabots. If i don't have any loose powder i find that you need to use more with the pellets. 110 gains with the 248 grain bullet.
I do not own the Hawken's yet. But some day.
With all three of my ML i find the loose powder to shot the best.
If i am not shooting sabots i always use a pre-lubed wad with conical bullets. I had a friend make up some soft 540 grain loads. He used the same mold that he makes is 500 S&W loads in.
540 grains with 150 grains of pellets shoot nice and pack one hell of a punch. On both ends.

With your Hawkens i would stay between 80 and 110 grains of ffg.
My BP Loading manual recommends max load for the Hawkens 110 powder volume = 109.6 grains of ffg powder.

You can also call T/C and ask what they recommend.
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Yes, you can shoot Triple 7, Pyrodex or any other black posder substitute in your gun. The susbstitutes have conversion charts available to tell you X grains of substitute = Y grains of black powder.

100gr. equivelent should be fine. I use 110gr. equivelent Pyrodex in my Lyman Great Plains rifle.
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Thanks everybody! Great info!!!!!
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