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Dating S&W .38 Model 10s

This is a discussion on Dating S&W .38 Model 10s within the Non-XD Handguns forums, part of the Other Handgun Talk category; I recently picked up two vintage S&W Model 10s (M&P). Both near mint. Serial #s 6D37851 and D08127. Can anyone help me with dates of ...


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Old 03-24-2009, 01:42 AM   #1
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Dating S&W .38 Model 10s

I recently picked up two vintage S&W Model 10s (M&P). Both near mint.
Serial #s 6D37851 and D08127. Can anyone help me with dates of manufacture? Not really wanting to cough up the $26 for the standard catalog of S&W (of which I've read bad reviews), or the $30 for the S&W
factory letters the manufacturer sells.
Best guess at the moment is 1970s.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. These may be more valuable when Weimar Republic-style inflation hits after the new emperor bankrupts the country.
Thanks again.
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Old 03-24-2009, 01:48 AM   #2
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If I can remember I'll look it up in my S&W book in the morning when I get home. Working midnights.
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I recently picked up two vintage S&W Model 10s (M&P). Both near mint.
Serial #s 6D37851 and D08127. ...
Your D08127 shows 1968 year of manufacture. Your 6D37851 is 1980 manufacture. Inside the crane will be a variation number, following the model number, for example: 10-5, the -5 being the variation. E.g, the 10-1 went into production in 1959, the 10-2 went into production in 1961. Post the variant number... will help confirm dates.

Above from the Standard Catalog of S&W, 3rd Ed.

ETA: I've got a Model 10-5, manufactured 1976-1977, most likely 1977 by the late serial number. Four inch pinned barrel, nickel-plated, original S&W wood grips, in great (LNIB) shape. Fun shooter.
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S&W Model 10s--Dating Followup

Many thanks to jmichna and mvician. Much appreciated. The Model 10 6D37581 is a 10-8, and the 3D08127 is a 10-6. I was aware that these crane numbers indicate engineering refinements/changes.
This little fetish started with a Model 13, purchased from a state trooper a long time ago. I love these guns, they're rock solid and more accurate than a lot of people would guess......I think it's the heavy barrels that do the trick. The bad news is that the collecting community is now all over these and they're getting more expensive.
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Many thanks to jmichna and mvician. Much appreciated. The Model 10 6D37581 is a 10-8, and the 3D08127 is a 10-6. I was aware that these crane numbers indicate engineering refinements/changes.
This little fetish started with a Model 13, purchased from a state trooper a long time ago. I love these guns, they're rock solid and more accurate than a lot of people would guess......I think it's the heavy barrels that do the trick. The bad news is that the collecting community is now all over these and they're getting more expensive.
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Okay... you got me now... can you double check the serial numbers, as you first posted "D08127" and now posted "3D08127"... the first serial number (dating the revolver to 1968 ) makes sense given the model variant 10-6, which first went into production in 1962. The 3D08127 number does not make sense; my reference does not show a "3D...." serial number for any Model 10s.

Your other Model 10, the 10-8, S/N 6D37581, does make sense, as the Model 10-8 first appears in 1977, and the serial number dates it to 1980.
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Revisiting the Serial Numbers....

greetings again, jmichna:
thanks for putting up w/me, pretty late when i posted last night.
i must have left off the "3" last night in the first post. it is most definitely there, as in 3D08127. this revolver, while identical as a model 10, of course, looks to be older than the 1980 gun based on the wear on the wood grips and other small signs of age.
this one, i was told, belonged to a retired police officer and had been stored for over 20 years. i also looked at the 3 stamp under 10x magnification to see if it was a police armory inventory number using a different stamp....but the font matches the factory numbers in every way.
the date you assigned it without the mysterious 3 makes sense based on the story, or maybe it's one of those factory flukes.
as a newbie, not sure i'm allowed to post pics yet, but will look into it and post both revolvers with a close up of the date in question.
thanks.
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Well, I double-checked, and the S/Ns run from 2D00001 to 2D99999, then skip to 4D000001 and up... no 3D anywhere in the S&W Standard Catalog for Model 10s. The 10-6 indicates the heavy barrel.

Where are you getting the serial number from? Check the frame bottom under the grip... what does it say there? My 10-5, for example, reads D978904.

What other numbers appear in the crane area in addition to the Model number? My 10-5 has '87370' and 'D17' stamped in this area.

Some views of my Model 10-5:


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Anyone want to clue me in on when a Model 66-1 would have been made?
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Anyone want to clue me in on when a Model 66-1 would have been made?
Model 66-1 variant started in 1977. Your serial number probably starts 10Kxxxx or higher. E.g., 10Kxxxx through 24Kxxxx are all 1977; 25Kxxxx-56Kxxxx are 1978/79, and so on.

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Reply to JMichna--Model 10 Mystery (Cont'd)

Thanks for posting your sweet Model 10 pics. Great looking piece.
The serial number 3D08127 is from the bottom of the frame. This gun has the original wood grips on it, unlike the 1980 one with Hogue grips which I pulled off to get that serial #.
Inside the crane has the following stamps: Mod. 10-6 (on the frame) and 21089 on the crane itself with a light stamp of F4 which is on a diagonal slightly getting into the 21089 number. This gun is factory blued with the heavy barrel and matte top finish on barrel. Blue is about 99.8%, case hardened parts are 100%, bore is excellent, no holster wear. The grips have a slight ding on one side on the bottom, and the grip screw head is a little marred. A few very light 'rust removal' surface shadows and a few hairline scratches from handling. This Model 10 never saw much use at all, but was very dirty when I got it with the original box and oiled paper.
Telling you all this since my 'profile' sez I can't add 'attachments' as a newbie. I haven't checked out why they won't let new members post pics, yet, but I'll check into it.
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