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Recomend Deer Rifle?

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Old 02-23-2009, 02:02 PM   #1
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Recomend Deer Rifle?

I'm looking to get a good deer rifle. I used my 30-30 Marlin lever action when I was a kid in Texas, not a bad overall gun, but limited in range and accuracy.

When I got about 14, my dad let me use his Browning semi-auto 30-06. I liked it, good power and decent accuracy.

I now live in PA and semi-auto is not allowed for hunting (or I'd use my AR ). This past season I used my father-in-law's .243. Not a bad gun, but I never really liked borrowing people's stuff.

Long story short, I'm looking for a new rifle. Can't be semi-auto. I'm looking to keep the cost reasonable (approx. $500-600 tops) and get good accuracy. I was thinking about a lower end Remington 700?

As far as caliber, I like 30-06, but was thinking a .308 would be nice since it can shoot 7.62 NATO rounds.

What do you guys think?
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Weatherby Vanguard .308 and mount a Nikon Team Primos 3-9x40 on it. Could do this for around 600...

I currently have two vanguards (one in .308 and one in 7mm Rem Mag) and they both hit what I am aiming at at all distances (100-400).

My 7mm Rem Mag has a Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9x50 and the .308 has a Nikon Team Primos 3-9x40. It is lighter than the 7mm and doesn't pack as much of a punch to the shooter but will still put large game down in its tracks lickety split.

The team primos is a great value. Very clear optics and the BDC reticle works well if you do a little homework (as in shoot it a bunch to figure out exactly where your rounds are landing at different distances) I can switch from a 100 yard target to a 400 yard target with nothing more than a slight squeeze with my left hand and put rounds on that target without guessing.

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Remi 700 in .308, I like that choice given your budget.
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I just went through this. Considered the Remington 700, Savage 10,11,12, Even Mossberg. I really like the entire Savage line and bought one of their 111 models (long action with composite stock) in a package deal that included a $35 Simmons variable scope. While it and the rings aren't all that great, the Savage is pretty solid right out of the box. This one doesn't have the Accutrigger and if I wanted it I would upgrade further to a 10FP in most likely .308 (the one I bought was 30-06). Anyway Big 5 had them for $399 so waltzed over there and got one. Interesting fact after the fact is that these allow for barrel changes by user. Not a difficult process and you can change calibers pretty easily. I'm looking at picking up a 25-06 barrel for mine, which allows keeping same bolt face. This one also has 4 round detachable magazine. Great reviews out there for the bucks on the gun, only one review that was positive on the scope and rings (all else said they were junk). Very pleased with this.

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I'd say in your sub $600 price range, I'd be looking at Savage, CZ, or Ruger. I'm personally not a fan of the big green R, but that doesn't mean they're bad rifles. If it were me in your shoes, I'd be looking at either a CZ or a Savage. The nice thing about the Savage is you can get a good rifle for under $400, and put the rest of the cash towards good glass.

<Edited out my misinformed bit about 7.62 compared to .308--got to learn something new today>
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:18 PM   #6
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I'm looking to get a good deer rifle. I used my 30-30 Marlin lever action when I was a kid in Texas, not a bad overall gun, but limited in range and accuracy.

When I got about 14, my dad let me use his Browning semi-auto 30-06. I liked it, good power and decent accuracy.

I now live in PA and semi-auto is not allowed for hunting (or I'd use my AR ). This past season I used my father-in-law's .243. Not a bad gun, but I never really liked borrowing people's stuff.

Long story short, I'm looking for a new rifle. Can't be semi-auto. I'm looking to keep the cost reasonable (approx. $500-600 tops) and get good accuracy. I was thinking about a lower end Remington 700?

As far as caliber, I like 30-06, but was thinking a .308 would be nice since it can shoot 7.62 NATO rounds.

What do you guys think?
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:20 PM   #7
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Reminton 710 .270 win i have one and dropped it out of my treestand (15ft) this past hunting season it had a round in the chamber and never went off i thought the scope had lost zero it was a bushnell that came with it but a few min later when i got back in my stand i seen a big deer at about 75yrds so i took the shot an bam hit him dead in the shoulder he ran about 20yrd and was done when i was gutting him the 270win round had gone through both shoulders it blew one shoulder apart and there was nothing left of his heart and half of its lung but i bought the rifle at wally world 2 years ago for $275 plus a $25 mail in rebate
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A 30-06 is a solid gun that you could use for any big game in North America, I will not get into preferred brands since this thread will just turn into an argument. You cant go wrong with a Remington 700 30-06 bolt action rifle, just stay away from the cheap stuff
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However, .308 Winchester and 7.62mm NATO are not the same round. Dimensionally, they are close, but 7.62 is a higher pressure round. Could you get away with shooting it in a .308 bolt gun? Probably--but I wouldn't recommend it.
I know they are not the same, but I was under the impression that .308 is higher pressure than 7.62x51 NATO. The opposite of .223 vs. 5.56x45.

Allowable pressures for .308 are 62,000 psi and for 7.62x51 are 50,000 psi.
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However, .308 Winchester and 7.62mm NATO are not the same round. Dimensionally, they are close, but 7.62 is a higher pressure round. Could you get away with shooting it in a .308 bolt gun? Probably--but I wouldn't recommend it.
Incorrect sir. The .308 Win is the higher pressure round of the two. Shoot all of the 7.62x51 you want

Same external dimensions, the internal dimensions are different enough that if you took it apart and looked at the two side by side... you wouldn't be able to tell the difference unless someone showed you.

The 7.62 is fine to fire out of the .308 chambered rifle. Not the other way around.

The reason some people get confused is because a rifle chambered for .223 is not designed to fire 5.56x45... but the other way around is fine.
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