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What happens if I use regular unleaded in Acura TL or Audi A4 instead of Premium?

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Old 01-23-2012, 11:49 AM   #1
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What happens if I use regular unleaded in Acura TL or Audi A4 instead of Premium?

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Old 01-23-2012, 11:50 AM   #2
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Higher compression ratio needs higher octane to prevent detonation

You might be able to get away with it for a while...but one day the fuel/air mixture will ignite to early because the lower octane level and your engine will go kaput!

http://www.whatcouldbegreener.com/14...will-cost-you/
http://stason.org/TULARC/vehicles/ga...tane-fuel.html


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you'll notice poorer fuel economy and poorer performance. Highly unlikely to see the engine self destruct, there's enough safe guards in place to help prevent detonation.

Higher grade fuels also sometimes have additional additives to help keep the system clean... but you also never want to run higher octane then your car is designed for. Higher octane fuels have less energy, and will also cause driveability problems.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:58 AM   #4
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I can't speak for the Audi, but I have an 07 Acura TL Type S. I have never put regular in. I have read that if you use regular, the computer will adjust for less octane, then you'll get less power and worse gas mileage. So some, maybe most, of what you save at pump will get chewed up on road. If you do put regular in, be sure you are not putting your foot hard into the gas pedal, that will ask for trouble, worst case being what AwPhuch showed above.

here's one decent discussion I just found on the web, has some good points on both sides of the debate:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_us...in_an_Acura_TL
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You are just making it harder on your engine than it needs to be.

With the more modern engines and computer controls, the electronics will adjust timing etc to make the engine run. Your economy will suffer, and as mentioned above, at some point you will start getting detonation and/or fouling.... eventually, it COULD do some damage to the engine.

I had a '03 VW Jetta with the turbo 1.8 and while it called for Premium, I ran nothing but regular unleaded through it 100% of the time. No problems, but mileage did suffer.
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If your car is turbo, higher octane is a necessity for it to run without detonating. Of course, if you stay out of boost, youll be fine
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You are just making it harder on your engine than it needs to be.

With the more modern engines and computer controls, the electronics will adjust timing etc to make the engine run. Your economy will suffer, and as mentioned above, at some point you will start getting detonation and/or fouling.... eventually, it COULD do some damage to the engine.

I had a '03 VW Jetta with the turbo 1.8 and while it called for Premium, I ran nothing but regular unleaded through it 100% of the time. No problems, but mileage did suffer.
Electronic timing will adjust...but it cannot adjust far enough out to prevent damage if it did prematurely detonate..that sound that sounds like marbles rattling around is detonation or knocking..just a little bit more fuel and kaput!

There is not less energy in higher octane fuel..the octane rating is the ability of the fuel to withstand higher compression ratios w/o pre-detonating
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I've noticed a fifference in my bike. Been on 89 for a month, and I'm switching back to 91 when I get gas next. Bike ran good for a week or so, but now it seems alittle sluggish. Need to clean my air filter and do an oil change too. I know you didn't ask about bikes, but I do notice a difference in the octane.

I highly reccomend k&n air filters, and amzoil for you speedy guys.
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it will run like crap, its only a few dollars difference. dont be a cheap ass haha.
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There is not less energy in higher octane fuel..the octane rating is the ability of the fuel to withstand higher compression ratios w/o pre-detonating
higher octane ratings have lower Btu, that is a fact. Higher octane ratings also have a slower burn, which is why you can increase compression ratio.
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