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lhcfireman · 08-16-2007, 08:52 PM

I just got back from the gun store and I am up in the air about my new 1911. They have a nice SA GI Champion for $550. It may be a little pricey but they have always done me right on any gun problem even if not from them. They also have a used range gun that according to their records - and they showed me the books - has only been rented 8 times in the last year. It is a Para PXT LDA 3.5 for only $700. Both prices are after tax too.

I was going for the SA but the Para is such a good price with all the nice stuff already on it.

Forget to add. I can make payments to them which helps out alot.

Here's a pic.

bigun · 08-16-2007, 09:30 PM

Para Pro's
1 Accurate as any full sized 1911.
2 Reliable right out of the box
3 Great looking
4 Great handling
Para's Cons
1 Fragile parts
2 spotty Quality
3 Customer service on again off again
4 Poor magazines

Springer pro's
1 Good quality
2 great customer service
3 good accuracy
4 good looks
Springer cons
1 May take a couple of hundred rounds to break in

My money would be on the Springer just because I owned one of those LDA CCW's and it was a POS and I got a run around with the service dept. Friends dont let friends shoot Para's

AKpredator · 08-16-2007, 09:45 PM

Ask Rdub, he has a few of them Barely Ordnance Limp D#$% Action guns!

Seriously, either will do fine for you and you can upgrade either one.

My $$ would go to the Springfield.

lhcfireman · 08-17-2007, 12:19 PM

Well I did alot of reading and it seems that either the Para is going to break or its not. With it being used I believe it is well enough broke in and its not going to break. So I went down and talked to them. They dropped it down to $650 and will take payments. Plus when its all done I am going to pick up the SA from them as well. Best of both. I have always liked the SA but after holding this it feels good. Earlier this week I cut my R index finger and got stitches. After they heal I will go in and shoot it, if I don't like it the money down will be transfered to the SA.

bigun · 08-18-2007, 11:49 PM

Para's will break then they'll fix them , they'll be good for a while then break again, then Para will start blaming you and threaten to not cover repairs, then you get pissed and ditch it onto the next sucker and hope you dont loose your ass on resale. But its your money.

griz · 08-19-2007, 07:06 AM

As current owner of 4 para's and having shot countless rounds through them, I'd get the Para over the springer anyday. I've had absolutely zero issues with my para's save for one incident in which the mag floorplate blew out and para sent me 2 replacements no questions asked.

The para LDA trigger is a work of art and silky smooth. I've not found a better feeling trigger save for some that have had extensive and costly custom work done on them and none better that were double action.

Accuracy is phenomenal with the para. They are a bit on the heavy side which lends to it's manageability but I will say if you have small hands, the double stack models may not be for you.

Cheesehead · 08-19-2007, 07:30 AM

I have a SA TRP. Of course it it is a little more expensive than the one you mentioned

. It is my best pistol. I am now considering a SA Mil Spec for my next purchase. I do not think you can wrong with a Springfield.

So Flo · 08-19-2007, 07:36 AM

Para's don't deserve the reputation they seem they have, IMHO.

I own a Para C7-45 and had a couple minor issues with it that Para fixed immediately (none of this sitting in the shop waiting to be fixed like many other manufacturers when doing warranty work)...I mean they rec'd the gun on Tuesday and had it shipped back out on Wednesday kind of turn around!

I love that pistol you show and hope to own one some day...and at $650 it is the deal of the week.

You will truly enjoy shooting the LDA trigger and will dislike ALL other triggers after shooting it. (I own a high dollar S&W 1911 that I cannot love because of the trigger it came stock with). People pay big money to get their triggers smoothed out, and Para delivers it to you like that right from the box!

Get the Para, don't listen to the nay sayers, you won't be sorry.

**mvician** · 08-19-2007, 10:06 AM

If you want a 1911........get a single action

BTW the grip on the LDA is fugly

lhcfireman · 08-20-2007, 10:12 PM

Well I also did some reading on the 1911 forums. I think the Para will be a fine gun. I am still going to be getting the SA but after the Para. There is room in the safe for both and really can you have to many 1911's

Now after I get the Para we will see how it does and if it will replace my pf-9 as a daily carry.

08-16-2007, 08:52 PM	#1
lhcfireman XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lake Havasu Posts: 127	Para or SA I just got back from the gun store and I am up in the air about my new 1911. They have a nice SA GI Champion for $550. It may be a little pricey but they have always done me right on any gun problem even if not from them. They also have a used range gun that according to their records - and they showed me the books - has only been rented 8 times in the last year. It is a Para PXT LDA 3.5 for only $700. Both prices are after tax too. I was going for the SA but the Para is such a good price with all the nice stuff already on it. Forget to add. I can make payments to them which helps out alot. Here's a pic. Last edited by lhcfireman; 08-16-2007 at 09:07 PM.

08-16-2007, 09:30 PM	#2
bigun XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern Iowa Posts: 2,693	Para Pro's 1 Accurate as any full sized 1911. 2 Reliable right out of the box 3 Great looking 4 Great handling Para's Cons 1 Fragile parts 2 spotty Quality 3 Customer service on again off again 4 Poor magazines Springer pro's 1 Good quality 2 great customer service 3 good accuracy 4 good looks Springer cons 1 May take a couple of hundred rounds to break in My money would be on the Springer just because I owned one of those LDA CCW's and it was a POS and I got a run around with the service dept. Friends dont let friends shoot Para's __________________ Springfield Loaded Stainless,Kimber Pro CDP 2, Kimber Custom Target, Beretta 92D Centurions x2, 92FS, SIG 229 SAS, CZ75, and several other weapons that give Liberals nightmares.

08-18-2007, 11:49 PM	#5
bigun XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern Iowa Posts: 2,693	Para's will break then they'll fix them , they'll be good for a while then break again, then Para will start blaming you and threaten to not cover repairs, then you get pissed and ditch it onto the next sucker and hope you dont loose your ass on resale. But its your money. __________________ Springfield Loaded Stainless,Kimber Pro CDP 2, Kimber Custom Target, Beretta 92D Centurions x2, 92FS, SIG 229 SAS, CZ75, and several other weapons that give Liberals nightmares.

08-19-2007, 07:30 AM	#7
Cheesehead XDTalk Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lost in Michigan Posts: 82	I have a SA TRP. Of course it it is a little more expensive than the one you mentioned . It is my best pistol. I am now considering a SA Mil Spec for my next purchase. I do not think you can wrong with a Springfield. __________________ It all depends if you are "buying" or "selling".

08-19-2007, 07:36 AM	#8
So Flo XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wellington, Florida Posts: 12,236	Para's don't deserve the reputation they seem they have, IMHO. I own a Para C7-45 and had a couple minor issues with it that Para fixed immediately (none of this sitting in the shop waiting to be fixed like many other manufacturers when doing warranty work)...I mean they rec'd the gun on Tuesday and had it shipped back out on Wednesday kind of turn around! I love that pistol you show and hope to own one some day...and at $650 it is the deal of the week. You will truly enjoy shooting the LDA trigger and will dislike ALL other triggers after shooting it. (I own a high dollar S&W 1911 that I cannot love because of the trigger it came stock with). People pay big money to get their triggers smoothed out, and Para delivers it to you like that right from the box! Get the Para, don't listen to the nay sayers, you won't be sorry. __________________ No Guns, Know Crime. Know Guns, No Crime! http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member3984.png

08-16-2007, 09:45 PM	#3
AKpredator XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 398	Ask Rdub, he has a few of them Barely Ordnance Limp D#$% Action guns! Seriously, either will do fine for you and you can upgrade either one. My $$ would go to the Springfield.

08-17-2007, 12:19 PM	#4
lhcfireman XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lake Havasu Posts: 127	Well I did alot of reading and it seems that either the Para is going to break or its not. With it being used I believe it is well enough broke in and its not going to break. So I went down and talked to them. They dropped it down to $650 and will take payments. Plus when its all done I am going to pick up the SA from them as well. Best of both. I have always liked the SA but after holding this it feels good. Earlier this week I cut my R index finger and got stitches. After they heal I will go in and shoot it, if I don't like it the money down will be transfered to the SA.

08-19-2007, 07:06 AM	#6
griz XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NW MO Posts: 745	As current owner of 4 para's and having shot countless rounds through them, I'd get the Para over the springer anyday. I've had absolutely zero issues with my para's save for one incident in which the mag floorplate blew out and para sent me 2 replacements no questions asked. The para LDA trigger is a work of art and silky smooth. I've not found a better feeling trigger save for some that have had extensive and costly custom work done on them and none better that were double action. Accuracy is phenomenal with the para. They are a bit on the heavy side which lends to it's manageability but I will say if you have small hands, the double stack models may not be for you.

08-19-2007, 10:06 AM	#9
mvician XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,828	If you want a 1911........get a single action BTW the grip on the LDA is fugly

08-20-2007, 10:12 PM	#10
lhcfireman XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lake Havasu Posts: 127	Well I also did some reading on the 1911 forums. I think the Para will be a fine gun. I am still going to be getting the SA but after the Para. There is room in the safe for both and really can you have to many 1911's Now after I get the Para we will see how it does and if it will replace my pf-9 as a daily carry.

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